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Old 10-25-2023, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
But but but dealers are saying they have years of buyers on wait lists.
Easy to get on a list and then say No when an allocation is offered.
Old 10-25-2023, 11:49 AM
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Was offered around 115k on my GT4 as a trade in, and offered a GT4RS used @ 230k and a GT3 used @ 280k. These prices are ridiculous. Just my .02
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Old 10-25-2023, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by CornWood
Was offered around 115k on my GT4 as a trade in, and offered a GT4RS used @ 230k and a GT3 used @ 280k. These prices are ridiculous. Just my .02
what was the MSRP of the 4RS? $180k?
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Old 10-25-2023, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by PorscheLover1963
what was the MSRP of the 4RS? $180k?
approx, 185ish. It was a Weissach car. 1050 miles.
Old 10-25-2023, 11:18 PM
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Been ADM shopping for a CGTS in the Los Angeles area. Been quoted between $15k-30k. Just curious to see what other buyers are experiencing.
Old 10-26-2023, 12:13 PM
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Still no Recession.


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Old 10-26-2023, 12:40 PM
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Lagging , yes there is no recession. But look at the projected gdp growth rates - falling off a cliff. Lots of quiet layoffs, Mercedes today talked about brutal EV pricing environment and having to do big discounts.

May take a few quarters until a big slowdown happens, but q4 is already looking like a marked deceleration from Q3.

Luxury is last to get impacted - I.e., Hermes, Ferrari, Porsche GT lol. Look at 2001/02 or even 09/10 environments.
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Old 10-26-2023, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Diablo Dude
Still no Recession.

especially since no one in the government knows how to define a recession
Old 10-26-2023, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DodoBrd
especially since no one in the government knows how to define a recession
A recession is defined by 8 economists that are on the Business Cycle Dating Committee, which is under the umbrella of the National Burreau of Research
(NBER), a private nonprofit ogranization.

Old 10-26-2023, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Diablo Dude
A recession is defined by 8 economists that are on the Business Cycle Dating Committee, which is under the umbrella of the National Burreau of Research
(NBER), a private nonprofit ogranization.
great… deliberately vague ‘experts’ with no real metrics, no thanks I will think for myself
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Old 10-26-2023, 03:21 PM
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"Recession": Your neighbor is broke.
"Depression": You are broke.

And it's easy to time the market bottom... it will happen when you are out of ammo.
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Old 10-26-2023, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DodoBrd
great… deliberately vague ‘experts’ with no real metrics, no thanks I will think for myself
Not vague.
The committee members are all named and the methodology is pretty clear.

Business Cycle Dating | NBER


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Old 10-26-2023, 03:41 PM
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+4.9% growth isn’t a recession
Old 10-26-2023, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Diablo Dude
Not vague.
The committee members are all named and the methodology is pretty clear.

Business Cycle Dating | NBER
It’s open to interpretation, meaning whatever they feel like, meaning pretty damn vague.


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Old 10-26-2023, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DodoBrd
It’s open to interpretation, meaning whatever they feel like, meaning pretty damn vague
Cool story.

US Business Cycle Expansions and Contractions | NBER

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