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Old 01-04-2024, 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by PTS
Color is always subjective but python green is loud and is an acquired taste for the majority of 911 buyers. The audience to buy that car is much smaller than many of the other colors, which generally means it will sell for less
cant say I agree
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Old 01-04-2024, 01:23 AM
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Python Green if I recall was one of the more popular PTS colors for the 991 GT3/RS cars.
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Old 01-04-2024, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by PTS
Color is always subjective but python green is loud and is an acquired taste for the majority of 911 buyers. The audience to buy that car is much smaller than many of the other colors, which generally means it will sell for less
On a Camry, sure. On a GT3...idk if a 'loud' color is too much for the "majority" of GT3 buyers.
Old 01-04-2024, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by shrimp money
It hasn’t been registered to any owner, wrinkles on bolster of driver’s seat AND passenger as the instructor sits with you. Carfax service entries from every Porsche dealer always tells what they’re doing to the car. Why do all of these entries just say “Vehicle Serviced” until it goes to CPO dealer in NJ?

It’s not a big track, so 11k miles is a lot of drifting. Also, at $1,300/90min session, they made a fortune with this car. Selling it at $219k is still a phenomenal gain. Since I’m just assuming it was on a track, I wonder if they followed the manual and replaced the driveshafts at 10k miles.
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It looks like a PEC car based on Carfax. That’s 11k hard miles of clowns like me ripping the crap out of it with LCs and banging off the rev limiter 20x a day trying to audition for Tokyo Drift in the water module.
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Ok, it’s 99% a PECLA car, literally says it was sold to and shipped to PECLA.
And it’s a $191k MSRP car. If this is the smoking gun of a crashing market, an 11k mile car that sold for nearly $30k over…😂
My man Shrimp . . . on the MONEY yet again!




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Old 01-04-2024, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by PTS
There are no 2025 allocations that exist yet. At best you're on a "list" but that doesn't mean anything until actual allocations are released to dealers.
The first rule about the "list" is there is no list
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Old 01-04-2024, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Freddie Two Bs
The first rule about the "list" is there is no list
There's a list, but it's fluid, not 'first come, first served'.
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Old 01-04-2024, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
There's a list, but it's fluid, not 'first come, first served'.
Which is the definition of "no list"
Old 01-04-2024, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Which is the definition of "no list"
The list can be fluid, with prizes awarded and the list crystalized when allocations arrive. There's a timing element. That's why I increase the frequency of servicing my cars and have more face time at the dealership in the weeks before allocations are expected to drop.
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Old 01-04-2024, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
The list can be fluid, with prizes awarded and the list crystalized when allocations arrive. There's a timing element. That's why I increase the frequency of servicing my cars and have more face time at the dealership in the weeks before allocations are expected to drop.
Dealer - "Oh good morning Mr. Manifold. Didn't you just have an oil change 2 days ago?"
Old 01-04-2024, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
The list can be fluid, with prizes awarded and the list crystalized when allocations arrive. There's a timing element. That's why I increase the frequency of servicing my cars and have more face time at the dealership in the weeks before allocations are expected to drop.
that’s actually a decent strategy. I have a couple friends that are ‘regulars’ at their dealer and have gotten new cars at MSRP w/ minimal buying history no doubt in part by showing the dealer you are real, ready and not a flipper
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Old 01-04-2024, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by av12345
It was not? Did you confirm this yourself?
I gave the selling dealership a call a few days ago before it sold, but honestly the way they worded it and based on what Shrimp posted, I think it was a PECLA car and the info they provided was incorrect. $30K over on a PECLA car is actually pretty crazy. It may have sold for less, but still cant imagine it being much less than they listed for given the recent $20K drop.

I guess if you really want to drive the car a ton for a couple of years it is not a bad deal, you wouldn't lose too much on it, but would be concerned if keeping this car longer term.

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Old 01-05-2024, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
The list can be fluid, with prizes awarded and the list crystalized when allocations arrive. There's a timing element. That's why I increase the frequency of servicing my cars and have more face time at the dealership in the weeks before allocations are expected to drop.
Seems more like a "pool" than a list. And the timing thing is interesting.
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Which is the definition of "no list"


Old 01-05-2024, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by shrimp money
It’s not a big track, so 11k miles is a lot of drifting. Also, at $1,300/90min session, they made a fortune with this car. Selling it at $219k is still a phenomenal gain. Since I’m just assuming it was on a track, I wonder if they followed the manual and replaced the driveshafts at 10k miles.
it was inspected daily by professional race techs, and maintained to track requirements. Those techs are exceptional and routinely working on much much more expensive motorsport and classic cars. I'd 1,000% trust them more than my dealer, not that any of my cars are cool enough to merit their attention.

Now I wouldn't pay over msrp for an 11K mile PEC car. But I also wouldn't be unduly concerned it was properly maintained. Keep it under warranty.
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Old 01-05-2024, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by AlexCeres
it was inspected daily by professional race techs, and maintained to track requirements. Those techs are exceptional and routinely working on much much more expensive motorsport and classic cars. I'd 1,000% trust them more than my dealer, not that any of my cars are cool enough to merit their attention.

Now I wouldn't pay over msrp for an 11K mile PEC car. But I also wouldn't be unduly concerned it was properly maintained. Keep it under warranty.
Are you saying all of the vehicles go on a rack each day and undergo inspections? Seems improbable given the man hours it would require, but I’m not privy to their operations


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