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Old 07-19-2023, 09:15 PM
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Its not really that hard, a simple tale of market demand.
Yes I get that both the car market and the housing market are driven by supply/demand dynamics but they are completely different things...one can be considered a need/necessity purchase (you need to live somewhere) while the other is a luxury good purchase.
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Old 07-19-2023, 09:16 PM
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That's pretty funny!

Especially given all the posts by you and others here still "talking" about me 3 weeks after my suspension. 😉

Rent free eh?
lol
Just play nice without the personal attacks and you'll be fine.
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Old 07-19-2023, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by revolve77
Its not really that hard, a simple tale of market demand.
It isnt really though. When consumers can't order direct and are at the mercy of Porsche Franchise Dealers and also Private Luxury car dealers it seems to be rather manipulated.
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Old 07-19-2023, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Diablo Dude
That's pretty funny!

Especially given all the posts by you and others here still "talking" about me 3 weeks after my suspension.

Rent free eh?
I’ve posted like 2 times in the past 3 weeks and none have been about you. Sorry bud. You aren’t that popular
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Old 07-19-2023, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by niji84
It isnt really though. When consumers can't order direct and are at the mercy of Porsche Franchise Dealers and also Private Luxury car dealers it seems to be rather manipulated.
Preach on brother.
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Old 07-19-2023, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by niji84
It isnt really though. When consumers can't order direct and are at the mercy of Porsche Franchise Dealers and also Private Luxury car dealers it seems to be rather manipulated.
No one has ever claimed that capitalism is transparent. Thats a fool's errand.

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Old 07-19-2023, 11:44 PM
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I think we have enough transparency on the prices of these cars from listings, auctions, forums, etc. Prices are high because of demand, not lack of transparency.
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Originally Posted by niji84
It isnt really though. When consumers can't order direct and are at the mercy of Porsche Franchise Dealers and also Private Luxury car dealers it seems to be rather manipulated.
So is it fair to assume the same principals can be applied to the last run up in housing prices? All courtesy of low inventory, home flippers, institutional investors, cheap money, etc. Bottom line is the price is often dictated by what the market will bear in a free market society.
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Old 07-20-2023, 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
Yes I get that both the car market and the housing market are driven by supply/demand dynamics but they are completely different things...one can be considered a need/necessity purchase (you need to live somewhere) while the other is a luxury good purchase.
Im not suggesting they are but rather showing the similarities of how they are both transacted in an inflated market. Point being, one is not expected to offload said asset at a reasonable price when market conditions favor the seller.
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Old 07-20-2023, 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by niji84
It isnt really though. When consumers can't order direct and are at the mercy of Porsche Franchise Dealers and also Private Luxury car dealers it seems to be rather manipulated.
alas you’re wrong. It’s still a simple tale of market demand. You even have world wide real time pricing and auction information and still can’t negotiate a better deal. Because you lack power. Because demand is high enough that you are just another fish in the sea.
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Old 07-20-2023, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by revolve77
Curious to see if those very naysayers would be willing to offload their real estate at "reasonable prices" during an inflated market.
NO!!! highest bid wins, cash, ten day close...
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Old 07-20-2023, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
Yeah with no 3RS coming, I may want to scratch my Ferrari itch with a Pista or my Lambo itch with a Hurcan STO as I have enough Porsches in my garage.
Sorry to hear that. I know how set your heart was on getting one.
Is PNH no longer selling GT cars to their long-term clients at MSRP?



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Old 07-20-2023, 11:21 AM
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DD, surely you’re not attempting to bait a fellow community member so quickly upon your return; are you?
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Old 07-20-2023, 11:25 AM
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DD, surely you’re not attempting to bait a fellow community member so quickly upon your return; are you?
No, not at all.

Porsche of North Houston has been actively promoted here as a dealership that sells new GT cars at MSRP to it's long-time customers.
I'm simply asking if they've changed their policy given the new GT3RS.
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simply indeed.
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