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Old 03-07-2023, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DodoBrd
Colokent, be careful which advice you take, USC paid a massive ADM to get into the GT game and now hypocritically tells people not to do it.

If you really want to spec your own allocation and it's worth $10k to you, I would consider it. The alternative is you delaying/not getting a car and who knows where pricing will be at that point.
Ummm please explain to me how I paid a massive ADM to get into the GT game because I've love to hear it.
Old 03-07-2023, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by IRunalot
Another one just closed on BAT

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...t3-touring-17/

223k for a Touring
And that's a 991.2 as well.

45K ADM
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Old 03-07-2023, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Colokent
Live in a smaller market, and the local dealer (who I specced and bought a Macan S from last year) is telling me there is a $10K ADM they are requiring on 911s. I am looking to order a well-optioned base 911. My SA tries to take the sting away by saying that for the price you get ~5K of PPF/Paint Correction and Ceramic coat, and an extra year's worth of maintenance free (for a total of two years). I am unenthusiastic, as I a.) am uninclined to spend an additional $10K in order to make my dealer feel good, b.) prefer to pick my own PPF/Ceramic Coat source [who is likely not the lowest bidder!], vs. paying someone to dictate where and how I will get PPF and ceramic. I have brought up my objections, and got a polite brush off from my SA (which I largely expected). I'd really like to do business with the local dealer if possible, as I have had generally good experiences locally (really like the SA), and the next nearest dealer is 50+ miles away. It costs $0 to get on the allocation waiting list at my local dealer's.

On the other hand, if I work with the dealer that is 50-ish miles away, it's only $1,000 to get on the list for an allocation (credited towards the car cost later), and they are selling at MSRP. This dealer is a larger dealer than my local dealer, so I'm thinking they may get a larger number of allocations. Being in a rush to get the allocation and build date is NOT a priority for me (would like to ideally take delivery in mid- to late 2024).

I'm inclined to tell my local dealer that I am ready to pull the trigger later this week-- minus the $10K ADM...and if he won't work with me on it, thank him and take my business elsewhere. Thoughts?
If that's your plan of attack, you should be prepared to walk. Because you won't be driving a base 911 unfortunately.
Old 03-07-2023, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
If that's your plan of attack, you should be prepared to walk. Because you won't be driving a base 911 unfortunately.
I don't have a particular "plan of attack" at this point....which is why I was posting the question...
Old 03-07-2023, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Colokent
I don't have a particular "plan of attack" at this point....which is why I was posting the question...
Allocations for 992 911 are few and far between. Most dealers received maybe 2 or possibly 3, some just one, in the past quarter. For all trim levels, Base, C2S, C4S, GTS, Targa, etc.

It's a seller's market unfortunately.
Old 03-07-2023, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Colokent
Live in a smaller market, and the local dealer (who I specced and bought a Macan S from last year) is telling me there is a $10K ADM they are requiring on 911s. I am looking to order a well-optioned base 911. My SA tries to take the sting away by saying that for the price you get ~5K of PPF/Paint Correction and Ceramic coat, and an extra year's worth of maintenance free (for a total of two years). I am unenthusiastic, as I a.) am uninclined to spend an additional $10K in order to make my dealer feel good, b.) prefer to pick my own PPF/Ceramic Coat source [who is likely not the lowest bidder!], vs. paying someone to dictate where and how I will get PPF and ceramic. I have brought up my objections, and got a polite brush off from my SA (which I largely expected). I'd really like to do business with the local dealer if possible, as I have had generally good experiences locally (really like the SA), and the next nearest dealer is 50+ miles away. It costs $0 to get on the allocation waiting list at my local dealer's.

On the other hand, if I work with the dealer that is 50-ish miles away, it's only $1,000 to get on the list for an allocation (credited towards the car cost later), and they are selling at MSRP. This dealer is a larger dealer than my local dealer, so I'm thinking they may get a larger number of allocations. Being in a rush to get the allocation and build date is NOT a priority for me (would like to ideally take delivery in mid- to late 2024).

I'm inclined to tell my local dealer that I am ready to pull the trigger later this week-- minus the $10K ADM...and if he won't work with me on it, thank him and take my business elsewhere. Thoughts?
For me, 50ish miles would be tolerable vs 10k ADM. That's an individual judgement of course. Your inclination seems reasonable- offer msrp, if declined go to the other dealer. Unless there are other factors not mentioned. You can service the car at the closer dealer if the 50mi is inconvenient for service. best of luck.
Old 03-07-2023, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold

One thing to keep in mind with prices is the effect of inflation. If you have 5% annual rate of inflation (which is about what we averaged for the past three years), a $200k car today inflates to a $210k car a year from now. That $10k isn't an increase in value when adjusted for inflation, it's what was needed to keep up with inflation.
They are literally one in the same.
You're forgetting that the MSRP of a 2022 vs 2023 GT3 increased by $8,600 which is 5.3%


Old 03-07-2023, 05:25 PM
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Thanks for all of the answers....very helpful.
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My dealer told me that they’ll receive allocations on the 17th. Anyone know if there will be additional GT3’s allocated?
Old 03-07-2023, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mnawa
My dealer told me that they’ll receive allocations on the 17th. Anyone know if there will be additional GT3’s allocated?
Probably the last batch if any. On the last round for 6 months they gave us 1 allocation.
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Old 03-07-2023, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrew_PSD
Probably the last batch if any. On the last round for 6 months they gave us 1 allocation.
thank you!
Old 03-07-2023, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Colokent
Thanks for all of the answers....very helpful.
Emailed my dealer and he said for base 911, he is about 2 years out... meaning he has enough people wanting them for the next 2 years based on average amount of allocations he gets.
Old 03-07-2023, 08:29 PM
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take a listen to CNBC report on used cars prices going up again for 2 months straight.
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Old 03-07-2023, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SBARacing
https://youtu.be/2SzHGQtfsN0

take a listen to CNBC report on used cars prices going up again for 2 months straight.
I’ve seen prices holding strong for used Porsches and BMWs as well. I think high interest rates have caused people to hold onto their used cars rather than buying new cars, so supply of used cars has dropped and demand for them has increased.
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Old 03-08-2023, 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by IRunalot
Another one just closed on BAT

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...t3-touring-17/

223k for a Touring
Nice, a 991.2 touring with 10k miles and 49k over MSRP. Welp... I guess we'll have to wait a little while longer for those 992 tourings to drop.
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