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Old 01-25-2023, 03:16 PM
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Interesting sell at 204k euros
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Old 01-25-2023, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
All GT cars sold by my dealer are at MSRP, but they go to the VIPs and repeat customers.
Admittedly, you havent bought a GT car since 2016.
So you're not a "repeat" customer.

Originally Posted by carcommander
If you are still "On the list" you probably are not going to get an allocation at MSRP. Oh well.
Bingo!
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Old 01-25-2023, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Maverick787
That's GBP, not EUR. So it's around 252k USD for a manual PTS touring with 6k miles on it. Seems pretty inline with what we're seeing in the market. I'm just glad the owner put 6k on it, much better than all the flippers we have stateside.
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Old 01-25-2023, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Scrappy1972
@Manifold The real question is why do you care how others - strangers no less - use their material possessions? I feel like this (along with the anti-ADM crusade) is just virtue signalling.
You’re not asking out of innocent curiosity or digging into the lifestyle of a responder. Youre intent is to shame them into thinking they’re less worthy of owning a GT3 than you are.
True.
I've never seen anyone be so obsessed about how "others" spend THEIR MONEY.
It's downright bizarre.

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Old 01-25-2023, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by darylbowden
That's GBP, not EUR. So it's around 252k USD for a manual PTS touring with 6k miles on it. Seems pretty inline with what we're seeing in the market. I'm just glad the owner put 6k on it, much better than all the flippers we have stateside.
‘Yes sorry, should have added more context good buy for the local market compared to MSRP in that market.
Old 01-25-2023, 03:42 PM
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It's really nonsense to expect, much less deride, anyone who buys a GT car to track it, or use it "as intended" (whatever the hell that means).

I mean, do people really expect every person who wears a Rolex Submariner to be divers? Either recreational or professional ones? Yet, few would look at someone who wears a Submariner and scoff at them if they don't use the watch "as intended".

Why? Because most people do not, as shown by this admittedly unscientific poll


Source: https://www.quora.com/Which-estimate...a-diving-watch
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Old 01-25-2023, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
It's really nonsense to expect, much less deride, anyone who buys a GT car to track it, or use it "as intended" (whatever the hell that means).

I mean, do people really expect every person who wears a Rolex Submariner to be divers? Either recreational or professional ones? Yet, few would look at someone who wears a Submariner and scoff at them if they don't use the watch "as intended".

Why? Because most people do not, as shown by this admittedly unscientific poll


Source: https://www.quora.com/Which-estimate...a-diving-watch
Mechanical watches are jewelry, don't need to be justified on a functional basis. For function, digital watches are best.
Old 01-25-2023, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by carcommander
If you are still "On the list" you probably are not going to get an allocation at MSRP. Oh well.
You misunderstand. GM told me the next GT3 allocation is mine (at MSRP), but they don't know when they'll get more allocations. I missed the previous 992 GT3 allocations because I didn't express interest to my dealer until fairly recently, at which point all of the allocations were already taken.
Old 01-25-2023, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
You misunderstand. GM told me the next GT3 allocation is mine (at MSRP), but they don't know when they'll get more allocations. I missed the previous 992 GT3 allocations because I didn't express interest to my dealer until fairly recently, at which point all of the allocations were already taken.
I didn’t misunderstand. If they were going to give you one, they already would have.
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Old 01-25-2023, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by carcommander
I didn’t misunderstand. If they were going to give you one, they already would have.
Bingo.
He's terribly tone-deaf.
Hasnt figured out that his local dealership wants NOTHING to do with him.
Old 01-25-2023, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
You misunderstand. GM told me the next GT3 allocation is mine (at MSRP), but they don't know when they'll get more allocations.
Of course he did.

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Originally Posted by Maverick787
That was Chris Harris' car...I'm sure he put some 6000 crazy miles on it.

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Originally Posted by Manifold
You misunderstand. GM told me the next GT3 allocation is mine (at MSRP), but they don't know when they'll get more allocations. I missed the previous 992 GT3 allocations because I didn't express interest to my dealer until fairly recently, at which point all of the allocations were already taken.
so… let me get this straight… you waltz into a dealership, late in the game, and they put you at the top of the list for MSRP?

you realize how ridiculous you sound?
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I am not sure a submariner not used as diving watch and a track focused car analogy are exactly the same. Some of us where we live, the speed limits are strictly enforced on public roads and there really isn't a place to experience the car at a pace you would consider spirited without getting license suspended/revoked or going to jail for exceeding speed limits. I have not even mentioned it is inherently dangerous on public roads to extract the performance which we all know the car is capable of since the car has such high limits.

Could the car be used just for cc, canyon drives, dd, garage queen? Absolutely you can but there is another part of the car that owner will not experience unless you are at a proper track. There is nothing wrong with either use cases.

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Old 01-26-2023, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Engro
I am not sure a submariner not used as diving watch and a track focused car analogy are exactly the same. Some of us where we live, the speed limits are strictly enforced on public roads and there really isn't a place to experience the car at a pace you would consider spirited without getting license suspended/revoked or going to jail for exceeding speed limits. I have not even mentioned it is inherently dangerous on public roads to extract the performance which we all know the car is capable of since the car has such high limits.

Could the car be used just for cc, canyon drives, dd, garage queen? Absolutely you can but there is another part of the car that owner will not experience unless you are at a proper track. There is nothing wrong with either use cases.
I think you can say that for any 911 you buy, and honestly any car with more than 300-400 hp is not really drivable for extracting performance. It’s just a tough position to say who should own what car for what reasons, and I say the watch position is a similar position. Take the Rolex Daytona which is a drivers watch made famous by Paul Newman, MSRP SS 15k and when to 50k and these guys aren’t driving. I means it’s a simple comparisons, but causes debate and who should own what because I will use it better. Also with that thinking no human should ever own a Turbo S as it can kill you really quick more so than a GT3.

I had a neighbor in CA when I lived there he worked his *** off all his life, and he wanted to one day own a Ferrari he was in his 60’s. He washed that damn thing every Saturday, and took it out for a drive down PCH and to see the smile on his face was priceless. One man’s opinion of waste, can be another mans life long happy moment. Just another point of view why not to question another mans pocket book or reasons for a purchase as the world is too full of hall monitors who took the extended lunch. 😎 (By the way your post was good and thoughtful…….I just commenting)

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