McLaren Success
#3991
Race Director
All turbos, even modern turbo cars have lag that is annoying to me other than the 488.
Driven recent turbo Mercedes, BMW, Mclaren, Porsche. Lag is less than it used to be for sure, but still noticeable and annoying to me.
GTR has lag. Or at least it did when I drive one In February.
Driven recent turbo Mercedes, BMW, Mclaren, Porsche. Lag is less than it used to be for sure, but still noticeable and annoying to me.
GTR has lag. Or at least it did when I drive one In February.
#3992
I’m fairly confident the 200 mile (yes two hundred) Sapphire Black 675LT Spider in Chicago can be had for around $250k. Probably not less than low $250s
Sapphire Black is like metallic midnight blue. Just like the BMW M color carbon Black Metallic.
Tremendous deal.
If one wants more of an attention getter, Dallas has a Napier green 675LT spider that’s certified preowned that I am also confident can be had in the $250s
Napier green is without question one of the all time best McLaren colors. Not for those looking to be discreet, though.
Sapphire Black is like metallic midnight blue. Just like the BMW M color carbon Black Metallic.
Tremendous deal.
If one wants more of an attention getter, Dallas has a Napier green 675LT spider that’s certified preowned that I am also confident can be had in the $250s
Napier green is without question one of the all time best McLaren colors. Not for those looking to be discreet, though.
#3993
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
I’m fairly confident the 200 mile (yes two hundred) Sapphire Black 675LT Spider in Chicago can be had for around $250k. Probably not less than low $250s
Sapphire Black is like metallic midnight blue. Just like the BMW M color carbon Black Metallic.
Tremendous deal.
If one wants more of an attention getter, Dallas has a Napier green 675LT spider that’s certified preowned that I am also confident can be had in the $250s
Napier green is without question one of the all time best McLaren colors. Not for those looking to be discreet, though.
Sapphire Black is like metallic midnight blue. Just like the BMW M color carbon Black Metallic.
Tremendous deal.
If one wants more of an attention getter, Dallas has a Napier green 675LT spider that’s certified preowned that I am also confident can be had in the $250s
Napier green is without question one of the all time best McLaren colors. Not for those looking to be discreet, though.
#3994
I also expect the pricing to rebound once more people pick these cars off and folks realize how special they really are.
#3995
Race Director
Looks like the final ZR1 was built a week ago. A total of 2,895 were built, of which less than 900 were manuals. Not that any of that resale bs matters. I am going to rack up the miles on this sucker, limited production or not.
#3996
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
I love chicane grey and if I ever got a coupe I would get one, especially with orange calipers and seats. There are several nice Chicane coupes out there. I think $220-230 is the right price right now for a low mile reasonably optioned coupe. $240 with fender louvers (coupe). Maybe I am overly optimistic re pricing, but I think these targets are doable.
I also expect the pricing to rebound once more people pick these cars off and folks realize how special they really are.
I also expect the pricing to rebound once more people pick these cars off and folks realize how special they really are.
#3997
Rennlist Member
A very good read on the "driving a fast car slow" conundrum, specifically related to mclarens but related to many powerful cars (and probably why a manual NA GT3 with 500hp remains "peak road car" for me)
http://www.speedhunters.com/2019/08/...tion-followed/
I honestly believe that a proper driving experience consists of three critical pillars; the first being power balance, the second being handling, and the third being driver feel and/or feedback. Most will argue that the 600LT does all three of these, and performs well doing so. But I'd argue that though that may be true on the track, it's almost too much for a road car.
http://www.speedhunters.com/2019/08/...tion-followed/
I honestly believe that a proper driving experience consists of three critical pillars; the first being power balance, the second being handling, and the third being driver feel and/or feedback. Most will argue that the 600LT does all three of these, and performs well doing so. But I'd argue that though that may be true on the track, it's almost too much for a road car.
I’ve said this elsewhere, my recently acquired 987 Boxster S may easily be the best car for my backroads, at any price:
I need more than my 996 GT3’s 380hp like a need a bullet to my head. So it remains the “peak road car” for me.
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#3998
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The more I look at Mac the more I want one. I was always a fan (contrary to what some think here) but do have my concerns.
Im 60 now. I have a 5 year retirement plan and dropping another $250k puts a dent in the plan. Love the 3RS. Drove it a lot yesterday. Amazing machine and the sound is epic. Even made the wife smile.
Watching 675LT vids. Wow. Love it. It would have to replace my FGT. Which is the RS stable mate for me along with “Charlotte”. Not sure I could part with the FGT ((Princess). Owned it 15 years and still love it.
Pondering in NJ.
Im 60 now. I have a 5 year retirement plan and dropping another $250k puts a dent in the plan. Love the 3RS. Drove it a lot yesterday. Amazing machine and the sound is epic. Even made the wife smile.
Watching 675LT vids. Wow. Love it. It would have to replace my FGT. Which is the RS stable mate for me along with “Charlotte”. Not sure I could part with the FGT ((Princess). Owned it 15 years and still love it.
Pondering in NJ.
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#4002
Race Director
Originally Posted by yesyoucan
You should add "in my opinion"...
Many people's opinions would differ...
Many people's opinions would differ...
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#4003
The issue is when people assert opinion as fact without a reasonable basis for the opinion. I have no issue with someone believing car XXX is better than mclaren YYY as long as they have actually driven both.
As soon as I drove a mclaren for the first time I had to have one. Completely lost all interest in my Carrera.
Now the GT3RS, that's a different story.
As soon as I drove a mclaren for the first time I had to have one. Completely lost all interest in my Carrera.
Now the GT3RS, that's a different story.
#4004
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The issue is when people assert opinion as fact without a reasonable basis for the opinion. I have no issue with someone believing car XXX is better than mclaren YYY as long as they have actually driven both.
As soon as I drove a mclaren for the first time I had to have one. Completely lost all interest in my Carrera.
Now the GT3RS, that's a different story.
As soon as I drove a mclaren for the first time I had to have one. Completely lost all interest in my Carrera.
Now the GT3RS, that's a different story.
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I agree - i hate all turbos to include the Ferrari F40 (sounds terrible and drives like crap), the 288 GTO, all Mclaren's ever built (including the 600LT, 675LT and the Senna), the new Ferrari Stradale phhh, and all modern 8 cylinder Ferrari's (all going Turbo), the Gt2RS, 959. Actually come to think of it - i like all those cars..
Never mind..........................
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