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Still dreaming of one I cannot drop $500k cash for a car just yet... another house np lol
But the point being just because you can't have one, doesn't mean it cannot or should not be appreciate for what it is.
Appreciate your tip.. I'm trending nicely and looking forward to my retirement in a few years.
Still dreaming of one I cannot drop $500k cash for a car just yet... another house np lol
But the point being just because you can't have one, doesn't mean it cannot or should not be appreciate for what it is.
Appreciate your tip.. I'm trending nicely and looking forward to my retirement in a few years.
Congrats.
I am motivated by spending if there isn't something I can afford it's my problem but over paying is no different than your priorities of a house vs a car. Anyone can justify anything as long as they can stroke a check
I am motivated by spending if there isn't something I can afford it's my problem but over paying is no different than your priorities of a house vs a car. Anyone can justify anything as long as they can stroke a check
Maybe so. But, IMO, there should be some pretty ticked off 918 owners, shortly.
They pay 1 million dollars for a car that they think owns all the speed records and automotive center stage. And believe that Porsche is going to protect that perch for them for at least a few years.
Instead, less than a year after the last 918 is sold, out comes the new champion of everything, the GT2. In every metric, equal to or better than the 918. But, at 1/3 the cost, with two less cylinders and doesn't require an extension chord.
That's gotta hurt.
You've obviously never used, probably never even seen, the tax forms that 918 owners use.
Maybe so. But, IMO, there should be some pretty ticked off 918 owners, shortly.
They pay 1 million dollars for a car that they think owns all the speed records and automotive center stage. And believe that Porsche is going to protect that perch for them for at least a few years.
Instead, less than a year after the last 918 is sold, out comes the new champion of everything, the GT2. In every metric, equal to or better than the 918. But, at 1/3 the cost, with two less cylinders and doesn't require an extension chord.
That's gotta hurt.
Perhaps you have forgotten the Carrera GT with a 7:28 Nordschleife time that was eclipsed by the former GT2RS at 7:18.
Are you drinking that out of your own experience? Is that why you say the 918 owners are hurting for $? That explains it, gotcha.
I recommend for you to try Hennesy or Remy Martin brand for starters, if you like cognac. Hopefully that will get you to hobnob with some 918 owners, and see for yourself if they are hurting for $$$.
Back in 1987 the F40 was about US$400K base price and performance at that time, 0 to 60 around 3.7 seconds with a top speed of about 202 MPH. Those F40 in pristine condition runs about US$1.6M in the secondary market lately. Comparable to the older F40 would be the recent 2015 458 "Speciale." It will do 0 to 60 in about 3.0 seconds with a base price of about US$300K with about the same top speed of 202 MPH. On average good condition they sell in the secondary market for about US$450K.
So there you can see the Speciale is quicker than the F40, yet the F40 still commands a higher resale value. The same context can be applied between the 918 and the GT2RS. There are a lot of factors that dictate a cars resale value. One thing we do know, records are meant to be broken. Newer cars will get better due to advances in engineering and technology. Needless to say, these cars are special in their own respective ways. Try owning one of the more recent GT cars by PORSCHE. You'll be impressed I assure you.
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
Originally Posted by fuddman
Maybe so. But, IMO, there should be some pretty ticked off 918 owners, shortly.
They pay 1 million dollars for a car that they think owns all the speed records and automotive center stage. And believe that Porsche is going to protect that perch for them for at least a few years.
Instead, less than a year after the last 918 is sold, out comes the new champion of everything, the GT2. In every metric, equal to or better than the 918. But, at 1/3 the cost, with two less cylinders and doesn't require an extension chord.
Originally PCNA sold 297 out of the initial 300 car allocations on the 'sold out date' which was Nov 8th 2014. But later they obtained another 3 cars from another market to make it back to a even 300 918s in the US market.
Why do I know the exact date? Cause that was the day my own 918 arrived at my dealership and the Porsche Canada CEO flew in to greet me for the car and he answered a phone call right in front of me about the car being sold out. 30 cars sold in Canada and 300 in the USA.
On non limited cars, the 918 VIP allocations are suppose to be "on top" of the normal allocation to the dealership for that model. GT2RS is not a numbered nor limited car so the allocation to the 918 VIP customer should not have counted against the dealership, so your sales person maybe moving you down the list for another "reason". Numbered/limited cars are a totally different issue. Maybe one of the dealers here can give clarification to that VIP allocation policy by PCNA.
Originally Posted by boccarp
I was 2nd on the GT2RS list at my dealer after their 1st 918 guy. Thought I was looking good until last night when dealer told me their 2nd 918 guy now decided he wants the car. Bumped to 3rd spot now and my dealer is not sure they will even get 2 order spots! This obviously would have been so much easier if I just tossed $900k at a 918 first. Silly me
@boccarp:
See Tim's reply.
Your dealership is not being honest with you and is playing games with his allocations. Ask them to show proof of his 'lack of allocations', he won't cause that's the secret game they play to maximize their market adjustment profit.
918 owners get first dibs, yes, but we do have a time period initially for limited production cars only. For non-limited production cars like the GT2RS, we only get a priority tag put on our orders, and dealers at their discretion don't have to move the orders 'all the way' up, they can let existing orders go through for whatever reasons first (as in someone paying a boat load of market adjustment or the owner's friends or their best local customer or orders that has already been locked or whatever) and find their next best slot for the 918 owners' car orders.
Good Grief, Thought this was a GT2RS thread!! A lot of whining here about the 918 and what they think owners are worried about. Really sounds like sour grapes for not buying a 918 when they were widely available to everyone who wanted one. Porsche was not selective about allocations like the way Ferrari does with any of their limited car, i.e. Laferrari. The 918 is still one of the best performance cars 3 years after its debut. Arguably, the best performing and technically advanced of the 3 hypercars. So just this year, it took a specially prepared Lambo to take the production car record for the Nurburgring from the 918, which it held for ~3 years. Progress is to advance beyond the previous generation. If the GT2RS will outperform the 918 thats awesome, then it will certainly outperform the best that Ferrari and Mclaren have to offer in the Laferrari and P1.
Also as far as worried about market value, I doubt most 918 owners are panicking yet. If anyone saw the latest RM auction, a Non Wiessach 918 went for 1.8 million all in.
Hey Nick wasn't talking about you, but there has been a lot of ill informed and out right BS about the 918/ VIP issue posted.
It's quite alright!
They listened to their dealers that's why. The dealer said it's not their call and blame everything on the 918 VIPs when in fact they are the ones withholding allocations and cherry picking customers, or worse, they keep the allocations to themselves and spec them then mark them up once those cars get to the showroom.
Nothing to do with 918 VIPs at all. The problems has always been with the greedy dealers.
The only great thing about buying a 918 in the US is that one get to bypass all the the BS from the dealers and shove it up their bottoms, priceless if you ask me.
08-25-2017 | 10:20 AM
I cannot drop $500k cash for a car just yet... another house np lol
