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Old 07-14-2017, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by AsianBond
how does porsche justify the premium over a rs or gen 2 gt3? i cant fathom what is costing an extra 100k? this car is price out of tune with rest of porsche line up.
gt2rs last time was not priced in line with the other cars either, msrp on base 997.2 gt2rs was around $250k and 997.2 gt3 base was what, msrp $115k? RS was 140k? I don't remember all of the 7.2 msrp, but the 2rs has always been out there
Old 07-14-2017, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Whoopsy
Canadian allocations doesn't get distributed out until the 4th quarter.

The only customers that can have a firm allocation is the 918 owners who still have their cars, which is around 15.
Thank you sir. I appreciate your shared insight,
I just need to hurry up and wait!
Old 07-14-2017, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by dariog
Is it only me or am I missing something? I cannot find information about how much is the boost value for new 991 GT2RS? (and maybe 991.2 Turbo S value)
Last Mezger 997 GT2 runs 1.4 bar and 997 GT2RS runs at even higher boost: 1.6 bar
The 2RS is 1.55 bar max and the Turbo S Exclusion Series is 1.32 at 9.0:1 and 9.8:1 compression ratios.
Old 07-14-2017, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Whoopsy
Canadian allocations doesn't get distributed out until the 4th quarter.

The only customers that can have a firm allocation is the 918 owners who still have their cars, which is around 15.
Thanks Whoopsy. At least they are telling you something. Porsche's playing hard to get is getting old. Like dating the prettiest girl in town, too much work.
Old 07-14-2017, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Loess
The 2RS is 1.55 bar max and the Turbo S Exclusion Series is 1.32 at 9.0:1 and 9.8:1 compression ratios.
Thanks Loess💪
997 GT2 and GT2RS have the same compression ratio 9.0:1
Old 07-14-2017, 07:10 PM
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I have my UK and German contacts working for me. I know my chances getting one in the US is very slime. But question. Why do some of you guys sell them so fast? Just for profit? Seems like to me people love the new GT 911 cars for the moment. Live in the moment. Then quickly move on. I hope this turns out how I feel it will. I hope it is as special as I believe it is.
Old 07-14-2017, 11:06 PM
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Don't sell mine until the new arrives, which usually means 3-4 years. But I'm not a flipper so I guess that makes me unusual these days....
Old 07-14-2017, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Loess
Thanks Whoopsy. At least they are telling you something. Porsche's playing hard to get is getting old. Like dating the prettiest girl in town, too much work.

It was actually the girl's dad tell you what she want when in fact she hasn't even decided yet.
Old 07-15-2017, 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by jo_ker
991GT2RS vs. Turbo gearing:

1. gear: 3.91
2. gear: 2.29
3. gear: 1.58
4. gear: 1.18
5. gear: 0.79

(1-5 gears are the same as in the 991 Turbo)

7. gear in the GT2 RS: 0.67
7. gear in the Turbo: 0.62


secondary/Axle/Diff:
991 GT2 RS : 3.96
991 Turbo: 3.44


991GT2RS speeds at 7200rpm:

1. : 62 km/h
2. : 105 km/h
3. : 152 km/h
4. : 203 km/h
5. : 241 km/h
6. : 284 km/h
7. : 335 km/h

the vmax of 340kph will be reached based on the 1,5% longer rolling circumference of the tires at those speeds.
I'm not sure if you calculated these speeds or found them elsewhere, but they do not look accurate. The listed 5th gear ratio is off, and the calculated speed in 7th is significantly higher than you've called out:

Ratio MPH kph
1 3.91 39 62
2 2.29 66 106
3 1.58 95 153
4 1.18 128 206
5 0.94 160 258
6 0.79 191 307
7 0.67 225 362

Note that modern radials do not grow anything like 1.5% in diameter due to centrifugal forces.

Interestingly Flacht generally tries to gear vmax in top to be at the engine's power peak. The listed 7000 RPM HP peak would equate to 219 mph with this gearing, it's only turning 6750 rpm at 211 mph. It's unlike them to leave that performance on the table, so either the power peak is wide and flat or perhaps the car can go considerably faster (pull downforce off the car carefully and I'd bet you could gear it out).
Old 07-15-2017, 12:14 AM
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Someone should fork over the $3500 for "deviated" stitching in black. The deviated stitching thing has been played out IMHO. Of course, I am a mere mortal and there is no way PCNA lets me buy one, but if I did I would tick that box and skip the red interior.
Old 07-15-2017, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by GT288
I have my UK and German contacts working for me. I know my chances getting one in the US is very slime. But question. Why do some of you guys sell them so fast? Just for profit? Seems like to me people love the new GT 911 cars for the moment. Live in the moment. Then quickly move on. I hope this turns out how I feel it will. I hope it is as special as I believe it is.
Speaking of Germany here is what you can find on mobile.de right now somebody is offering 991 GT2RS with delivery on March 2018 for EUR 610.000,00 (you can pick up your color scheme and other option as well). There is also another for EUR 580.000,00 with delivery on January 2018

Those prices mean huge markups....
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Old 07-15-2017, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by T10Chris
gt2rs last time was not priced in line with the other cars either, msrp on base 997.2 gt2rs was around $250k and 997.2 gt3 base was what, msrp $115k? RS was 140k? I don't remember all of the 7.2 msrp, but the 2rs has always been out there
you are right, thanks for the insight.

i also dont understand why everyone is getting so excited on a model that has look the same for several years now, too bad porsche did not make it look more different
Old 07-15-2017, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by dariog
Speaking of Germany here is what you can find on mobile.de right now somebody is offering 991 GT2RS with delivery on March 2018 for EUR 610.000,00 (you can pick up your color scheme and other option as well). There is also another for EUR 580.000,00 with delivery on January 2018

Those prices mean huge markups....
LOL! If that's what it's going to take. I'm going 675LT. But we'll see.
Old 07-15-2017, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by dariog
Speaking of Germany here is what you can find on mobile.de right now somebody is offering 991 GT2RS with delivery on March 2018 for EUR 610.000,00 (you can pick up your color scheme and other option as well). There is also another for EUR 580.000,00 with delivery on January 2018

Those prices mean huge markups....
Meh, it's been tracked - no interest.
Old 07-15-2017, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Nizer
Meh, it's been tracked - no interest.
Exactly! But do they not realize this isn't a numbered car? Who's going to pay that kind of money when you really don't have to wait at least the next generation. No thanks!! One of my brokers in UK told me he has a great connection with a Porsche contact. Maybe we will see what happens. But if I can get it starting at MSRP what is the point? I love the car. But paying those prices makes you think about that idea again. "You're paying for a GT3 RS with a Turbo S Engine. "


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