OT: My full Review of the 2016 Viper ACR
05-09-2016, 06:15 PM
#377
Dude, DE Championship is sezious buziness! 
05-09-2016, 06:31 PM
#379
This thread just went from great to priceless. Newbie calling out CJ and KV is hysterical. JSA, a few seconds of background research before throwing yourself into a bonfire would have been advisable.
05-09-2016, 07:02 PM
#380
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What I find disheartening is that the labor unions destroyed Chrysler (now purchased by Fiat after a bailout was taken (stolen) from the American tax payers). And GM stole billions from us as well. Yeah, quite disheartening....
I'm not spending the time to read through this entire thread, but did anyone ask for "CJ" to provide some history on his driving? Is he a real proven race car driver? Or, is he a "DE Champion" and/or a paid driver on some fancy race team and is really the "slower driver of the group."
Just saying...
And for the record, I was very close to buying an ACR. But I wasn't dumb enough to fall for the marketing hype - it's a RACE CAR that is (barely) street legal. And NO ONE should want to go that fast in ANY car that doesn't have a roll cage and full safety measures... Unless of course you're wanting to be a "DE Champion."
But, I guess when you know you're going out why not go out with a bang right? SRT division is getting the ax, so they created a race car in the new ACR. You could take a C7 Z06 or 991 GT3 and very easily make it hang all over the ACR. But, at that point you should be doing REAL racing not trying to be a DE champion which I suspect most people who purchased the ACR will be doing with the car...
With all that said, I'll be ready, willing and able to hurt the feelings of the unsuspecting ACR driver with my sh$t box 991 GT3. :-)
Cheers!
I'm not spending the time to read through this entire thread, but did anyone ask for "CJ" to provide some history on his driving? Is he a real proven race car driver? Or, is he a "DE Champion" and/or a paid driver on some fancy race team and is really the "slower driver of the group."
Just saying...
And for the record, I was very close to buying an ACR. But I wasn't dumb enough to fall for the marketing hype - it's a RACE CAR that is (barely) street legal. And NO ONE should want to go that fast in ANY car that doesn't have a roll cage and full safety measures... Unless of course you're wanting to be a "DE Champion."
But, I guess when you know you're going out why not go out with a bang right? SRT division is getting the ax, so they created a race car in the new ACR. You could take a C7 Z06 or 991 GT3 and very easily make it hang all over the ACR. But, at that point you should be doing REAL racing not trying to be a DE champion which I suspect most people who purchased the ACR will be doing with the car...
With all that said, I'll be ready, willing and able to hurt the feelings of the unsuspecting ACR driver with my sh$t box 991 GT3. :-)
Cheers!
Please- continue to insult all of us AND one of the most respected members of the forum.
~Jared
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05-09-2016, 07:22 PM
#381
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Hadn't read much on this thread because the Viper is not for me.
But when I read the idiot post of 2016 I had to back up and read all of it.
Great stuff I was missing
We could do with a few more data overlaid video's..
But when I read the idiot post of 2016 I had to back up and read all of it.
Great stuff I was missing
We could do with a few more data overlaid video's..
05-09-2016, 10:38 PM
#383
Chooo Chooo. Can't help coming back to train wreck. I need to take video but I don't know if it will capture the way you just turn the wheel at triple digit speeds and dammit if the car doesn't turn.
05-09-2016, 11:04 PM
#385
05-09-2016, 11:36 PM
#386
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05-10-2016, 12:37 AM
#389
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Let's hear more about this awesome viper and how to fix the push... Feeding the JSA troll is just that.
From a street drivability perspective, can the viper be easily driven to the track, used then driven back?... Or does it approach Radical levels of low ground clearance/harshness etc?
From a street drivability perspective, can the viper be easily driven to the track, used then driven back?... Or does it approach Radical levels of low ground clearance/harshness etc?
05-10-2016, 11:12 AM
#390
Per the ACR supplement, track settings are 4" ride height to frame (F'ing thing has a frame) rail front and 5.5" rear (that be some rake, eh?). The splitter extension (ABS plastic designed as a wear item) on my car measures about 3.75" above ground level. I feel confident it will scrape from time to time, such as in my driveway at home or office. That said, my GT3 lip scrapes all the time and it is also a wear item. As delivered, my ACR was way better in that department than the GT3.
I don't have any real street miles on my ACR now that it is set up for track, other than local fuel runs, so can't say how bad the scraping will be. I would not take it anywhere with bad dips or inclines in pavement, but driving around most streets should be OK.
Another pretty easy fix that would not take long at all is simply go up on all 4 spring perches (the supplement tells you the height change per turn) by 10 turns, which will make 5" front and 6.3" rear, numbers that are about as the car is delivered. I'd leave all the extra aero bits on, as they are just plastic anyway. Added bonus is this will decrease static camber and related camber wear. I figure the car could be jacked up one side at a time and spring perches and shock settings put back to street in 15-30 minutes max.
Another nice thing is the CCM brakes don't require track pad swaps like I do on my iron brake cars. When my GT3 goes into street rotation the brake pad swap is a PITA between centerlocks and having to remove the calipers for pad changes.
I've got a bit under 2000 miles total on my ACR now, did one road trip and the rest local and track. It is clearly more of a track-optimized compromise than the GT3, but is also WAY faster than GT3. I have daily driven the ACR in rotation and it's WAY less comfy than the GT3, which really can be a DD. You have to be a bit lunatic fringe to DD the ACR, but I also DD my Elise in rotation, too, so I am OK with it.
I've got a Radical, too, and that car is more like 2" ride height and requires air jacks and no way is it street drivable (even if it were legal to do so)- it's an effort to even load it in my trailer.
I don't have any real street miles on my ACR now that it is set up for track, other than local fuel runs, so can't say how bad the scraping will be. I would not take it anywhere with bad dips or inclines in pavement, but driving around most streets should be OK.
Another pretty easy fix that would not take long at all is simply go up on all 4 spring perches (the supplement tells you the height change per turn) by 10 turns, which will make 5" front and 6.3" rear, numbers that are about as the car is delivered. I'd leave all the extra aero bits on, as they are just plastic anyway. Added bonus is this will decrease static camber and related camber wear. I figure the car could be jacked up one side at a time and spring perches and shock settings put back to street in 15-30 minutes max.
Another nice thing is the CCM brakes don't require track pad swaps like I do on my iron brake cars. When my GT3 goes into street rotation the brake pad swap is a PITA between centerlocks and having to remove the calipers for pad changes.
I've got a bit under 2000 miles total on my ACR now, did one road trip and the rest local and track. It is clearly more of a track-optimized compromise than the GT3, but is also WAY faster than GT3. I have daily driven the ACR in rotation and it's WAY less comfy than the GT3, which really can be a DD. You have to be a bit lunatic fringe to DD the ACR, but I also DD my Elise in rotation, too, so I am OK with it.
I've got a Radical, too, and that car is more like 2" ride height and requires air jacks and no way is it street drivable (even if it were legal to do so)- it's an effort to even load it in my trailer.