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10-14-2015, 01:15 AM
#1396
10-14-2015, 01:23 AM
#1397
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sitff = no grip
soft = more grip
you have stiff front softer rear, you have more rear grip
the car at neutral is alreay pushing.
you reduced front grip, so pushes more.
a stiff front will have initial push at turn in, your car wont turn.
there are other kind of push for example, at exit. car turns turns turns then wont turn anymore despite you keep turning the str wheel, that woudn't be a bar issues, that would often be too much rear aero for example.
if you soften front 2 clicks then drive it, you will see what i mean (not that will be YOUR set up, but you will experience the reduced pushe if you softened the front.)
soft = more grip
you have stiff front softer rear, you have more rear grip
the car at neutral is alreay pushing.
you reduced front grip, so pushes more.
a stiff front will have initial push at turn in, your car wont turn.
there are other kind of push for example, at exit. car turns turns turns then wont turn anymore despite you keep turning the str wheel, that woudn't be a bar issues, that would often be too much rear aero for example.
if you soften front 2 clicks then drive it, you will see what i mean (not that will be YOUR set up, but you will experience the reduced pushe if you softened the front.)
10-14-2015, 01:24 AM
#1398
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I have an open order with tire rack to ship me another set of MPSC2 as soon as they get more in. That order was placed a week ago. When was yours shipped? My last set from tire rack was in early September.
10-14-2015, 01:27 AM
#1399
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sitff = no grip
soft = more grip
you have stiff front softer rear, you have more rear grip
the car at neutral is alreay pushing.
you reduced front grip, so pushes more.
a stiff front will have initial push at turn in, your car wont turn.
there are other kind of push for example, at exit. car turns turns turns then wont turn anymore despite you keep turning the str wheel, that woudn't be a bar issues, that would often be too much rear aero for example.
if you soften front 2 clicks then drive it, you will see what i mean (not that will be YOUR set up, but you will experience the reduced pushe if you softened the front.)
soft = more grip
you have stiff front softer rear, you have more rear grip
the car at neutral is alreay pushing.
you reduced front grip, so pushes more.
a stiff front will have initial push at turn in, your car wont turn.
there are other kind of push for example, at exit. car turns turns turns then wont turn anymore despite you keep turning the str wheel, that woudn't be a bar issues, that would often be too much rear aero for example.
if you soften front 2 clicks then drive it, you will see what i mean (not that will be YOUR set up, but you will experience the reduced pushe if you softened the front.)
10-14-2015, 01:29 AM
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i always ran toe out up front. some think i am nuts. so i stopped telling ppl that.
run rear softer, you can power out
as front softens, u need to unwind faster.
no one right way,
whatever you feel good with, is the right way
run rear softer, you can power out
as front softens, u need to unwind faster.
no one right way,
whatever you feel good with, is the right way
10-14-2015, 01:33 AM
#1401
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Originally Posted by mooty
i always ran toe out up front. some think i am nuts. so i stopped telling ppl that.
run rear softer, you can power out
as front softens, u need to unwind faster.
no one right way,
whatever you feel good with, is the right way
run rear softer, you can power out
as front softens, u need to unwind faster.
no one right way,
whatever you feel good with, is the right way
10-14-2015, 01:38 AM
#1403
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
I used to run toe out in front, better turn in but don't like the feel.
997's full stiff rear always but we'll see on RWS cars. Different animals.
GT4 have RWS?
997's full stiff rear always but we'll see on RWS cars. Different animals.
GT4 have RWS?
10-14-2015, 01:43 AM
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u turn in earlier than i, zero toe ok
i turn late and abrupt. need help with toe
yes gt4 is new gt3
u need one
i turn late and abrupt. need help with toe
yes gt4 is new gt3
u need one
10-14-2015, 01:47 AM
#1406
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Swapping cars with Chris, Stephen also shipping for Winterfest.
Martin has some excuse about being a bookkeeper or somesuch for not shipping his GT4.
Need to try one on for size. I need stripper with Recaro's.
Euro Delivery Spring / Summer 2016 and ship straight to BGB.
Martin has some excuse about being a bookkeeper or somesuch for not shipping his GT4.
Need to try one on for size. I need stripper with Recaro's.
Euro Delivery Spring / Summer 2016 and ship straight to BGB.
10-14-2015, 01:53 AM
#1407
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Neat video I made comparing my best lap to the cleanest lap a pro driver could find with me as a passenger. Bummed I didn't have the solo turned on during his run. He obviously wasn't going all out, but fun to watch anyway. Good thing that miata got in his way! LOL
10-14-2015, 02:24 AM
#1408
I have a set of dunlop takeoffs I bought from a rennlister at a discount. I kept them all summer as a backup, but I don't want them to rot in the garage too long before they go bad, so I'm using them next.
I have an open order with tire rack to ship me another set of MPSC2 as soon as they get more in. That order was placed a week ago. When was yours shipped? My last set from tire rack was in early September.
I have an open order with tire rack to ship me another set of MPSC2 as soon as they get more in. That order was placed a week ago. When was yours shipped? My last set from tire rack was in early September.
How long can you store tires in a temp-controlled garage before there is an issue?
10-14-2015, 02:30 AM
#1409
sitff = no grip
soft = more grip
you have stiff front softer rear, you have more rear grip
the car at neutral is alreay pushing.
you reduced front grip, so pushes more.
a stiff front will have initial push at turn in, your car wont turn.
there are other kind of push for example, at exit. car turns turns turns then wont turn anymore despite you keep turning the str wheel, that woudn't be a bar issues, that would often be too much rear aero for example.
if you soften front 2 clicks then drive it, you will see what i mean (not that will be YOUR set up, but you will experience the reduced pushe if you softened the front.)
soft = more grip
you have stiff front softer rear, you have more rear grip
the car at neutral is alreay pushing.
you reduced front grip, so pushes more.
a stiff front will have initial push at turn in, your car wont turn.
there are other kind of push for example, at exit. car turns turns turns then wont turn anymore despite you keep turning the str wheel, that woudn't be a bar issues, that would often be too much rear aero for example.
if you soften front 2 clicks then drive it, you will see what i mean (not that will be YOUR set up, but you will experience the reduced pushe if you softened the front.)
10-14-2015, 03:17 AM
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^ got it now.
while loosen rear will help reduce push, the full stiff front will still induce initial push, regardless where you set the rear.
while loosen rear will help reduce push, the full stiff front will still induce initial push, regardless where you set the rear.