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Old 10-14-2015, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
I hope to be proven wrong, but I'm predicting that the Dunlops will last only a fraction as long as the Sport Cup 2. When I tried them on the Cayman and 997, they degraded quickly when pushed hard, and I vowed never to try them again.
They seem to have done ok for my buddy that had his car delivered with them. He liked them better than the trofeoR and was faster with them. I think they lasted him 4 days, but he killed the outer edges with stock alignment.
Old 10-14-2015, 07:26 PM
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If the Dunlops end up being way better for you, maybe you should just switch to those and keep current setup.

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Oh man, I don't know if I can stomach screwing around with the car anymore now that I love how it feels. I think Ben and Chris will kill me if I screw with the car again since all 3 of us love the setup. If the dunlops end up being markedly better than the mpsc2, then your theory about the tires could be right. I might consider it, but only if the dunlops are significantly better.
Old 10-14-2015, 07:33 PM
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Fair call Joe. Too much buggering around given you have shims fitted etc. Be interested how you go with the dunlops. I have reverted to stock geo and look like I'll get five days max on the track with my current MPSC2 and 5000 road km including 1500 fast road work, but I'm pushing in a bit now and with my prior -2.15 settings I doubt I'd have made it past 6 track days...
Old 10-14-2015, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mech33
If the Dunlops end up being way better for you, maybe you should just switch to those and keep current setup.
True! Lol!

Originally Posted by Macca
Fair call Joe. Too much buggering around given you have shims fitted etc. Be interested how you go with the dunlops. I have reverted to stock geo and look like I'll get five days max on the track with my current MPSC2 and 5000 road km including 1500 fast road work, but I'm pushing in a bit now and with my prior -2.15 settings I doubt I'd have made it past 6 track days...
Old 10-15-2015, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by orthojoe
I don't know, to be honest. I'm guessing you don't want them to sit around for more than a year, and these tires are approaching being one year old. No idea if I'm way off base or not.

My mpsc2 order was placed 10/7, so let's see what happens!
Not directly on point but for out "funny rubber" winter snows, e.g. tires like the Bridgestone Blizacks, the local winter ice track junkies track talk about a shelf life in the 3 year range - these are the kind of guys who ONLY put the funny rubber on for the Steamboat Bridgestone track. The Porsche winter performance programs in Finland now seem to uniformly much use a studded tire, so . . . . . one has a pretty good visual indicator for traction availability - run them till the studs start coming out, or disappear. FWIW, I'm told they'll now offer a GT3 &/or GT3RS on some level of studded tire in 2016 - or if you have the $$$$ you can do a Cup Car
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Some photos from Laguna Seca:




Old 10-16-2015, 01:29 AM
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Great pics Joe!!
Old 10-24-2015, 08:46 PM
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I would be interested to know if anyone of those who track the gt3 fitted or want to fit different suspension arms or control arms with monoball instead of rubber bushings.

I tried the gt3 on track with just some more camber brake hoses and pagid rs29 pads but felt that it lack a little precision near the limit and was reading about the bbi autosport street cup suspension parts and other parts and control arms on tarrett website but would like to read some review specific to the 991 gt3.
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Originally Posted by Maxi_z
I would be interested to know if anyone of those who track the gt3 fitted or want to fit different suspension arms or control arms with monoball instead of rubber bushings.

I tried the gt3 on track with just some more camber brake hoses and pagid rs29 pads but felt that it lack a little precision near the limit and was reading about the bbi autosport street cup suspension parts and other parts and control arms on tarrett website but would like to read some review specific to the 991 gt3.
The only changes made to my suspension components have been the tarret monoball lower control arm end and the RSS adjustable thrust arm bushings. I needed the thrust arm bushings to correct excessive caster as a result of my camber settings. The LCA monoball end was needed to remove the preload that occurred as as result of putting in the solid thrust arm bushing.
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Joe, what was your personal best at LS?
Old 10-26-2015, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 24Chromium
Joe, what was your personal best at LS?
1:38.4 on mpsc2
1:38.6 on trofeoR

Ben has done 1:37.6

I haven't heard of anyone doing 1:36 or better yet, but I'm sure there are people out there who can on a stock setup.
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I'm honestly a little surprised that your times aren't lower. A well driven 6GT3 (stock drivetrain/suspension) on NT01's did high 38's. I mean it does have almost 100 more HP, PDK, rear steering etc etc..
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Originally Posted by oldskews4
I'm honestly a little surprised that your times aren't lower. A well driven 6GT3 (stock drivetrain/suspension) on NT01's did high 38's. I mean it does have almost 100 more HP, PDK, rear steering etc etc..
I did say that I was sure there are people out there that can do better.
Old 10-26-2015, 10:25 AM
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This is a video of my 1:38.4 vs a respected local pro driving my car on the same day with me as passenger and running into traffic at the end running 1:39.x. Granted, he wasn't going 10/10ths, but I don't think my time is something crazy slow.



Track conditions play a role as well, I think. I'm betting we'll see faster times from everyone after the rain season early next year.
I remember running 1:41 consistently in my spyder in early spring, but the rest of the year I was running 1:43.

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Old 10-26-2015, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by oldskews4
I'm honestly a little surprised that your times aren't lower. A well driven 6GT3 (stock drivetrain/suspension) on NT01's did high 38's. I mean it does have almost 100 more HP, PDK, rear steering etc etc..
Ouch!! Maybe you just need that -3/-3.5 alignment, Joe?


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