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Old 10-26-2015, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mech33
Ouch!! Maybe you just need that -3/-3.5 alignment, Joe?
Lol! Must resist! Pro driver was happy with the car's dynamics and so am I. He loved the car so much he hasn't been able to stop talking or thinking about it!
Old 10-26-2015, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by orthojoe
Lol! Must resist! Pro driver was happy with the car's dynamics and so am I. He loved the car so much he hasn't been able to stop talking or thinking about it!
Alright maybe I'll keep these numb swaybar settings at least through the Laguna event this weekend to make sure I'm not passing judgement too quickly based on a fresh set of tires... :P
Old 10-26-2015, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Mech33
Alright maybe I'll keep these numb swaybar settings at least through the Laguna event this weekend to make sure I'm not passing judgement too quickly based on a fresh set of tires... :P
Everyone's driving style is different and each car is different. My monoball lca might be giving me a touch more front end grip and feel than your car. If you thought the car felt fine with your prior settings, trust your instincts. For me, the car had a tendency to oversteer, so I wanted to keep it more planted.
Old 10-26-2015, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by oldskews4
I'm honestly a little surprised that your times aren't lower. A well driven 6GT3 (stock drivetrain/suspension) on NT01's did high 38's. I mean it does have almost 100 more HP, PDK, rear steering etc etc..
that's really really fast.
who's that?
jeff did 1:38 with R6, rest stock
dave did 1:37 on moton and V710
i did 1:40 with RA1, that's going 11/10 scaring myself

pro?
damn that's fast
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I should've phrased better. It was late. By no means was my post a criticism. What I meant to say was, with an excellent driver like Joe, I'm surprised the times aren't lower.

Also, the 6GT3 had a good track alignment, fresh NT01's, cup front lip and RS rear wing with 4 degrees shims. The driver was far from a pro, it was me :-)
Old 10-26-2015, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by oldskews4
I should've phrased better. It was late. By no means was my post a criticism. What I meant to say was, with an excellent driver like Joe, I'm surprised the times aren't lower.

Also, the 6GT3 had a good track alignment, fresh NT01's, cup front lip and RS rear wing with 4 degrees shims. The driver was far from a pro, it was me :-)
Damn, that impressive.
It just goes to show you how much the driver makes a difference. I've got a ways to go still!

Given that Randy Pobst did 1:37 at Laguna with a GT4, I have to guess that the GT3 should be able to do at least a 1:35 in his hands.
Old 10-26-2015, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by orthojoe
Damn, that impressive.
It just goes to show you how much the driver makes a difference. I've got a ways to go still!

Given that Randy Pobst did 1:37 at Laguna with a GT4, I have to guess that the GT3 should be able to do at least a 1:35 in his hands.
I was pretty shocked by this number as well. Does anyone know if that's a single lap, or a best computed lap? It seems like at that speed, he's bound to have a few incidents? Damn good driver, though.
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It was best single lap. To be perfectly honest, it didn't feel anymore dramatic than 39's and 40's. It was a 1:38.8 after all.

BTW Joe, is there a reason you are not tracking all the way out to the rumble strips after 4? You are giving up a foot or two of track out. By using it, I think you can go WOT a split second sooner and gain a couple of MPHs before 5.
Old 10-26-2015, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by oldskews4
BTW Joe, is there a reason you are not tracking all the way out to the rumble strips after 4? You are giving up a foot or two of track out. By using it, I think you can go WOT a split second sooner and gain a couple of MPHs before 5.
Yes. I am a wimp. LOL.
You are 100% correct.
After riding with the pro, and watching the video, I realized how much room I really still have and how much more I can gain if I utilize it.
The fear is giving up that amount of breathing room to account for error. T4 has been the 'end' for many cars, but I know to drive straight off rather than try to save and 'hook' the car into the wall. Just need to 'man up'.
Old 10-26-2015, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by orthojoe
Damn, that impressive.
It just goes to show you how much the driver makes a difference. I've got a ways to go still!

Given that Randy Pobst did 1:37 at Laguna with a GT4, I have to guess that the GT3 should be able to do at least a 1:35 in his hands.
Randy did 1:35.6 in Turbo S on MPSC2, which should be noticeably faster than GT3 at Laguna Seca, unless Turbo somehow got heat soaked or was otherwise compromised.
Old 10-26-2015, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxLTV
Randy did 1:35.6 in Turbo S on MPSC2, which should be noticeably faster than GT3 at Laguna Seca, unless Turbo somehow got heat soaked or was otherwise compromised.
Didn't realize that. You're right, turboS on R comp should be faster than a GT3. Maybe 1:36, then? That makes the GT4 seem like an amazing car, though. Only 1 second slower??
Old 10-26-2015, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by orthojoe
Didn't realize that. You're right, turboS on R comp should be faster than a GT3. Maybe 1:36, then? That makes the GT4 seem like an amazing car, though. Only 1 second slower??
Perhaps the often complained about "long gearing" is a benefit? Less shifting.
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Originally Posted by orthojoe
Didn't realize that. You're right, turboS on R comp should be faster than a GT3. Maybe 1:36, then? That makes the GT4 seem like an amazing car, though. Only 1 second slower??
I kinda call BS on the 475 hp of the GT3 relative to the 380 hp of the GT4... every dyno I've ever seen of the GT3 seems to be WAY low relative to a 475 hp @ the flywheel motor...
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Originally Posted by Mech33
I kinda call BS on the 475 hp of the GT3 relative to the 380 hp of the GT4... every dyno I've ever seen of the GT3 seems to be WAY low relative to a 475 hp @ the flywheel motor...
But I have never seen anyone use the PIWIS to put the car in dyno mode. Nearly every magazine and internet tester claimed GT3 as underrating the power. I assume the GT4 did as well.
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Originally Posted by Mech33
I kinda call BS on the 475 hp of the GT3 relative to the 380 hp of the GT4... every dyno I've ever seen of the GT3 seems to be WAY low relative to a 475 hp @ the flywheel motor...
It feels faster than 475 to me. I think you want to call BS on the 380hp of the GT4. Only being a second off the time of the GT3 on a power track like Laguna is very odd.


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