GTS
10-11-2014, 12:22 AM
#303
10-11-2014, 12:27 AM
#304
This whole discussion confuses me. Aren't ALL 911's fantastic in their own way? People are so different. Some prefer the raw track performance of a GT3. Others a regular Carrera for it's better DD characteristics. Convertible/targa for the open air knowing they give up a ton of torsional rigidity. I personally love my 911/50 for its DD ability and partial rarity. I know a GT3 is faster but that wasn't MY priority. BUT I understand why someone would kill for a GT3. Heck, if I was 37 and not 57 maybe I would have gone for a GT3. I just don't understand one 911 variant owner putting down another. It's actually mind boggling. They are all incredible cars with a slightly different focus. We choose based on our needs....I don't track so why not have a sunroof and a Burmester? Others just want to hear the exhaust. Enjoy what you have. Why put down and belittle others? If you have a 911 it is elite....no matter what variant.
Last edited by destaccado; 10-11-2014 at 02:36 AM.
10-11-2014, 12:34 AM
#305
GTS, 50th, GT3, etc.
Variety is the mother of enjoyment.
As far as the GT3 goes and its lineage, I'm reminded of the following: You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.
Variety is the mother of enjoyment.
As far as the GT3 goes and its lineage, I'm reminded of the following: You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.
10-11-2014, 12:36 AM
#306
Yes. A 991 Cup? No. However, I've also posted links to the opinions of people who race Cup cars who share the same feelings I do. Forgive me for assigning more weight to their posts than to yours.
I repeat: (besides the marketing "over 80% same") pretty much everything between GT3 and GT3 cup are different and that's any GT3 (996, 997, 991). Again, different transmission, different suspension, different wing, different steering, different doors, different bumper covers, different splitter, different seat, different steering wheel, different dash, different glass, different interior, different fuel cell, different wheels, different tires, etc, etc, etc. In other words, anything and everything of importance is different between street GT3s and real race cars. Perhaps you'd know some of this if you hung out with people who drive Cup cars, helped work on Cup cars, speak to shop owners who work on Cup cars, or know Porsche techs who work on Cup cars. Seriously, you really have no idea what you're talking about.
Then you say things like this (post #100): https://rennlist.com/forums/991/8376...nounced-3.html
"I want a GT3 and am willing to pay GT3 money but I'm pretty sure Porsche stopped making it in 2011. If I'm stuck without a new GT3 I might as well buy the car with some utility."
"I want a GT3 and am willing to pay GT3 money but I'm pretty sure Porsche stopped making it in 2011. If I'm stuck without a new GT3 I might as well buy the car with some utility."
Why? Because things you've read online say that 997 GT3 is "based on race cars" or is a "street-legal race car"? Whereas you read online that 991 GT3 isn't because they stopped using the Mezger engine, is PDK only, and has RWS? Because you wanna be associated with the "hardcore" image?
Let me ask you this: how many HPDE track days have you done? And I don't mean a couple of days in the green group or as part of Porsche Roadshow or some other marketing gimmick. I mean real track days with real HPDE groups (not fluff stuff). I hazard a guess that it's not many - otherwise you wouldn't continue to spew off clueless things like you've been harping on.
So you're a street redlight hero who thinks you're "all that" and know how to drive because you have a "Porsh". Now you want a 997 GT3 RS because you read on the internet that it's a street-legal race car. So you're a poser. Based on your repeated ignorant, uninformed, and immature posts over the past several days, I think you'd fit right in at STi or some of the M3 forums. I'd say stick to those forums (where you fit in) except that apparently you have more money than brains.
Wow. What did I just say about you fitting right in at STi forums with all the other 16 year olds? I heard they compare ***** sizes there. When you continue to say stupid **** like that and the following, expect to be called out on it (post #208): https://rennlist.com/forums/991/8376...nounced-6.html
""It was my wife car...she wanted it...so what can I say." (someone saying he bought his wife a Cayenne)
You can say 'no' and buy her something that isn't a piece of ****. Whenever I hear a guy being ruled by his wife I question everything else he's telling me. Furthermore, in my experience, the less you let women lead you the higher quality women you end up with. YMMV.
If you want a useful link to some factual reading instead of emotionally charged poser-babble here you go; heartiste.wordpress.com"
I rest my case.
You can say 'no' and buy her something that isn't a piece of ****. Whenever I hear a guy being ruled by his wife I question everything else he's telling me. Furthermore, in my experience, the less you let women lead you the higher quality women you end up with. YMMV.
If you want a useful link to some factual reading instead of emotionally charged poser-babble here you go; heartiste.wordpress.com"
I rest my case.
Do you own a GT3? I'm sorta curious why a guy driving a Boxster and riding a GSXR is so worried about my opinion on the car's name.
Last edited by destaccado; 10-11-2014 at 01:28 AM.
10-11-2014, 12:44 AM
#307
Nordschleife Master
So you are the judge of what car deserves a gt3 badge ? Someone who has never owned one, driven one, ect ?
I think Porsche is more qualified than anyone...and they have spoken....end of story.
10-11-2014, 12:44 AM
#308
So hey -- feel free to share those facts then and this thread can go ahead and die. So far the only parts that the entire "991 GT3 is a real GT3" side have been able to come up with in 20 some pages that the car shares in common with the Cup over the GTS is the rear bumper, the brakes, and a few suspension parts. The entire powertrain is derivative designs of what is in the GTS -- without a shred of it being related to the actual GT3. I simply pointed that out.
10-11-2014, 12:47 AM
#309
Yes. Believe it or not but I'm the judge of whatever I want to be the judge of; as are you. If you believe that the GT3 is deserving of its badge -- than don't worry about my opinion. Funny that you claim Porsche is more qualified than anyone though considering they're a profit-driven company and there's a huge marketing benefit and therefore benefit to their bottom-line via calling this car a GT3. Porsche probably would have called it the Formula 1 if they thought it would increase their profits.
10-11-2014, 01:08 AM
#310
Let's get one thing straight I'm not "worried about" what the **** you do for a living. Im curious. So since you're a man who like to use words and monikers and things appropriately, try reading.
And no I don't have any more cars to sell, car is gone. But you really got me with that one.
I think you're a joke, and someone or something broke you in life and now you sit there all alone pushing strangers buttons on the Internet all day.
I was actually curious what you did for a living cause I'm baffled that some guy who can afford Porsches has time to answer every singe petty little comment or quote or fact that's thrown at them. It actually seems as if you're paid to be in here jerking us all off. And I'm wondering if I can get you over here for a real handie instead of this cyber-tug you're giving this whole thread.
I feel bad for anyone who's spent their, I mean wasted their time even replying to you. Including myself.
No matter what BS you throw back next in not biting. I'm done in here. Best of luck
And no I don't have any more cars to sell, car is gone. But you really got me with that one.
I think you're a joke, and someone or something broke you in life and now you sit there all alone pushing strangers buttons on the Internet all day.
I was actually curious what you did for a living cause I'm baffled that some guy who can afford Porsches has time to answer every singe petty little comment or quote or fact that's thrown at them. It actually seems as if you're paid to be in here jerking us all off. And I'm wondering if I can get you over here for a real handie instead of this cyber-tug you're giving this whole thread.
I feel bad for anyone who's spent their, I mean wasted their time even replying to you. Including myself.
No matter what BS you throw back next in not biting. I'm done in here. Best of luck
10-11-2014, 01:10 AM
#311
Nordschleife Master
Yes. Believe it or not but I'm the judge of whatever I want to be the judge of; as are you. If you believe that the GT3 is deserving of its badge -- than don't worry about my opinion. Funny that you claim Porsche is more qualified than anyone though considering they're a profit-driven company and there's a huge marketing benefit and therefore benefit to their bottom-line via calling this car a GT3. Porsche probably would have called it the Formula 1 if they thought it would increase their profits.
Continue on...I'm done. Lol
10-11-2014, 01:13 AM
#312
10-11-2014, 01:52 AM
#313
Three Wheelin'
Then.
Now.
Deal with it because you can't change it.
Dan (points to reality)
Deal with it because you can't change it.
Dan (points to reality)
10-11-2014, 02:25 AM
#314
In fact -- the only thing he says that relates it to the Cup is that the same people worked on designing it (albeit using all derivative components from the Carrera models)
So basically per your own video that I just watched -- "feels" and "emotion" are what connects the 991 Cup to 991 GT3 -- not car parts.
Like I said 100x already. In my opinion; fantastic car - and I don't mean that with only token appreciation - but not a GT3.
