GT3 production delays.... again!
#391
Rennlist Member
Please keep us informed however I dont think we will get accurate info till end of week. I originally thought maybe it was something to do with front lift option but doesnt look like that eiether as Mike has shifted by 1 weeks as have I (I dont believe it yet) and he has lift and I dont so its not that....
#392
Thread Starter
Racer
Even though my dealer has zero information (not just on the delays, sadly), I honestly don't believe that the 'updated' delivery dates that have only shifted a week or so are correct. Nor that it only impacts only cars with some options.
If there is / was something fundamentally wrong with a part (of the production process), which will require a lot of changes and possible rework. The later delivery ones might encounter less delays, since Porsche might use all the time available (including overtime and additional shifts where possible) to catch up.
I moved from a committed delivery in week 35 to one in 41, to 44, then to 47 (again confirmed in writing), when the car was claimed to be in production. When it actually wasn't. Amateurs.
Porsche 991 GT3 - Ferrari 458 Speciale: 0 - 1.
If there is / was something fundamentally wrong with a part (of the production process), which will require a lot of changes and possible rework. The later delivery ones might encounter less delays, since Porsche might use all the time available (including overtime and additional shifts where possible) to catch up.
I moved from a committed delivery in week 35 to one in 41, to 44, then to 47 (again confirmed in writing), when the car was claimed to be in production. When it actually wasn't. Amateurs.
Porsche 991 GT3 - Ferrari 458 Speciale: 0 - 1.
#393
Race Director
I'm not particularly optimistic re: the one week delay. I can imagine a scenario where the updated parts (whatever they are) are initially available in limited quantities and allow for minimal delays for a few fortunate owners, but that's pure speculation. All we can do is continue to report what we've been told, as a point of interest if nothing else, and then wait and see what happens.
#394
Rennlist Member
Even though my dealer has zero information (not just on the delays, sadly), I honestly don't believe that the 'updated' delivery dates that have only shifted a week or so are correct. Nor that it only impacts only cars with some options.
If there is / was something fundamentally wrong with a part (of the production process), which will require a lot of changes and possible rework. The later delivery ones might encounter less delays, since Porsche might use all the time available (including overtime and additional shifts where possible) to catch up.
I moved from a committed delivery in week 35 to one in 41, to 44, then to 47 (again confirmed in writing), when the car was claimed to be in production. When it actually wasn't. Amateurs.
Porsche 991 GT3 - Ferrari 458 Speciale: 0 - 1.
If there is / was something fundamentally wrong with a part (of the production process), which will require a lot of changes and possible rework. The later delivery ones might encounter less delays, since Porsche might use all the time available (including overtime and additional shifts where possible) to catch up.
I moved from a committed delivery in week 35 to one in 41, to 44, then to 47 (again confirmed in writing), when the car was claimed to be in production. When it actually wasn't. Amateurs.
Porsche 991 GT3 - Ferrari 458 Speciale: 0 - 1.
Hey, your 458 order has changed form "Jan 2014" to "March 2014"? You already lost 3 months with Fiat too so VW arent the only ones ?
#395
Thread Starter
Racer
So, yes, it's been moved, but since they hadn't given me a confirmed delivery yet (because the allocations weren't known) but only a guestimate, I am not that bothered. Possibly also because I just happy that, contrary to a lot of other countries in the world, I am 'allowed' to buy a 458 Speciale as 'my first Ferrari'... I guess putting a 13% deposit down more than 14 months ago on a car that wasn't 100% confirmed yet did demonstrate that I was serious about it.
#397
Rennlist Member
My salesman was out yesterday but checked my car's status this morning, and it shows no change from when he checked in early October - still projecting a 1/17/14 completion date and a 3/7/14 delivery date. My salesman says most of his cars have been getting here in about four weeks after completion, i.e., three weeks more quickly than the estimated date, so hopefully mine will get here a little earlier as well.
He's going to check again next week, and I'll post any schedule updates.
He's going to check again next week, and I'll post any schedule updates.
Last edited by jfr0317; 10-29-2013 at 03:06 PM.
#402
Well observed, Macca. Ferrari Dubai will only receive 2 Speciales with production in January: the press car and one with a fixed spec. So, mine will be February production and get here in March. Ferrari, unlike Porsche, uses airfreight, which easily saves a couple of weeks on transport.
So, yes, it's been moved, but since they hadn't given me a confirmed delivery yet (because the allocations weren't known) but only a guestimate, I am not that bothered. Possibly also because I just happy that, contrary to a lot of other countries in the world, I am 'allowed' to buy a 458 Speciale as 'my first Ferrari'... I guess putting a 13% deposit down more than 14 months ago on a car that wasn't 100% confirmed yet did demonstrate that I was serious about it.
So, yes, it's been moved, but since they hadn't given me a confirmed delivery yet (because the allocations weren't known) but only a guestimate, I am not that bothered. Possibly also because I just happy that, contrary to a lot of other countries in the world, I am 'allowed' to buy a 458 Speciale as 'my first Ferrari'... I guess putting a 13% deposit down more than 14 months ago on a car that wasn't 100% confirmed yet did demonstrate that I was serious about it.
really looking forward to the dubai launch on thursday!
peter
#403
Race Director
#404
From the original delivery date I got when I placed the order. I think they are all delayed for sure and if buyers are being told otherwise their dealers aren't looking closely enough at the build timelines from Porsche. I would say 4-6 week delays will be expected at this point.
#405
Rennlist Member
I just had update over night from Euro dealer and also PAG contact.
Delay remains officially the same
QUOTE
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Unfortunately, we have to inform you that we are still facing delivery issues at our system supplier for one of our GT3 standard options. Therefore, delays in the production and delivery process of the 991 GT3 are still occurring.
Please notice, that the dates shown in the system are not reliable.
Currently, we are not able to provide new production or delivery dates. Updated information about further procedure and delivery dates will be communicated by the end of October 2013.
For further questions please do not hesitate to contact your responsible market support at PSO1.
We do apologize for any inconvenience caused.
UNQUOTE
Unofficially the PAG employee has confirmed the following-
1). Delays to production to start are expected for 1-1.5 month (not clear if this is from today or from original date - assume original date).
2). As soon as factory production starts delays will come down quickly.
3). Unprecedented relative demand (over anticipated forecast) for RHD cars and now significant delays in order books opening for RHD production!
This is from horses mouth so to speak. Cant say any more. General feeling I got was that we will certainly see no customer deliveries until early Jan 2014. When you factor Xmas and New Year and winter logistics issues in Europe (snow and ice on roads) it is pressed upon me that any production will start only later in Dec and probably take some time to get to Port and destination.
Delay remains officially the same
QUOTE
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Unfortunately, we have to inform you that we are still facing delivery issues at our system supplier for one of our GT3 standard options. Therefore, delays in the production and delivery process of the 991 GT3 are still occurring.
Please notice, that the dates shown in the system are not reliable.
Currently, we are not able to provide new production or delivery dates. Updated information about further procedure and delivery dates will be communicated by the end of October 2013.
For further questions please do not hesitate to contact your responsible market support at PSO1.
We do apologize for any inconvenience caused.
UNQUOTE
Unofficially the PAG employee has confirmed the following-
1). Delays to production to start are expected for 1-1.5 month (not clear if this is from today or from original date - assume original date).
2). As soon as factory production starts delays will come down quickly.
3). Unprecedented relative demand (over anticipated forecast) for RHD cars and now significant delays in order books opening for RHD production!
This is from horses mouth so to speak. Cant say any more. General feeling I got was that we will certainly see no customer deliveries until early Jan 2014. When you factor Xmas and New Year and winter logistics issues in Europe (snow and ice on roads) it is pressed upon me that any production will start only later in Dec and probably take some time to get to Port and destination.