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Old 01-29-2021, 10:37 PM
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No need to discuss as the buyer bought the builder/tuner the car was secondary. Same as in real estate your not buying the house per se its the location
Old 01-30-2021, 02:31 PM
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The 9M car was well bought. I thought the color would keep it from getting as high as it did. I'm happy the value was realized.

Originally Posted by halothane
Get over the “high miles” argument. You haven’t seen the car in person, so your opinions are purely speculative, unfounded, and frankly comical. Any vintage car that is intended to be DRIVEN requires meticulous maintenance and upkeep. This car went one step further to fully dial it in and upgrade beyond RS specs with the added benefits of AWD. It’s trolls like you that kill the market. You would benefit the entire community by keeping your biased opinions to yourself and practicing how to heel toe, assuming you even drive your car.
On the other hand, this is one of the most misplaced comments I've seen on RL in a while. I've got news for you sir, the entire point of this thread is to speculate, and nothing Cobalt said was incorrect. The final sentence was the icing on the ignorance cake.

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Old 01-30-2021, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by tjb616
...On the other hand, this is one of the most misplaced comments I've seen on RL in a while. I've got news for you sir, the entire point of this thread is to speculate, and nothing Cobalt said was incorrect. The final sentence was the icing on the ignorance cake.
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I went through a couple of edits on my thoughts about that recent troll post... but your comment is all that needs to be said and much kinder than my draft.
Old 01-30-2021, 11:07 PM
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I just wish the term "RS spec" would stop being thrown around so loosely.
Old 01-31-2021, 12:35 AM
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Are you familiar with NineMeister aka 9M? When they say RS spec, it isn't because they put some brake ducts on a C4 and called it a day. Granted the car looked to be built to a Touring trim RS spec, it's definitely not thrown around loosely to refer to a 9m64RS as an"RS Spec" build.

Please visit the 9M Rennlist user profile, click on "threads started by..." and look at the completeness of their down to the bare tub, acid dipped, and rebuilt from the ground up builds.

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Old 01-31-2021, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by eddieb4
Is rust on a car of this age, or any long time Hawaii car, a certainty too?

My car Talia is a MY91 C2 tip coupe sold in Honolulu new and stayed there till I received her in 2014. Actually very little rust visible some under the front wings

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Old 01-31-2021, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Vandit
Are you familiar with NineMeister aka 9M? When they say RS spec, it isn't because they put some brake ducts on a C4 and called it a day. Granted the car looked to be built to a Touring trim RS spec, it's definitely not thrown around loosely to refer to a 9m64RS as an"RS Spec" build.

Please visit the 9M Rennlist user profile, click on "threads started by..." and look at the completeness of their down to the bare tub, acid dipped, and rebuilt from the ground up builds.

https://rennlist.com/forums/members/...nemeister.html
I usually don't like badging on a modified car. Although in this case it isn't much different than a one off RUF build and IMO someone got a heck of a deal. I will be going through the same thing with my recent purchase and even at cost the parts add up but the hours are staggering, especially if you custom build everything.
Old 01-31-2021, 09:29 AM
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FYI this showed up just now.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...ory-wide-body/

I got all excited until I read the paint readings? I have looked at and metered many low mile original paint 964's and these numbers don't add up. I am thinking it might have been wet sanded and new clear added. The only thing I can think of when I see numbers like that.

Nice car but how will this impact the sale and will people care or notice? ​​​​​​
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Old 01-31-2021, 04:02 PM
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Old 01-31-2021, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by cobalt
FYI this showed up just now.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...ory-wide-body/

I got all excited until I read the paint readings? I have looked at and metered many low mile original paint 964's and these numbers don't add up. I am thinking it might have been wet sanded and new clear added. The only thing I can think of when I see numbers like that.

Nice car but how will this impact the sale and will people care or notice? ​​​​​​

Wow unreal low miles.

it looks like the area at the bottom of the windshield was repainted (meter readings 11/12) likely for rust repairs. Maybe it sat outside for a long time and the clear coat broke down, would explain things, maybe?

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Old 02-01-2021, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by NACHTBLAU
Wow unreal low miles.

it looks like the area at the bottom of the windshield was repainted (meter readings 11/12) likely for rust repairs. Maybe it sat outside for a long time and the clear coat broke down, would explain things, maybe?
The early black base clear cars had clear issues although this car is metallic it might have suffered from the same issue and was re cleared. Those numbers are just too high in some areas and average in others. .
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Originally Posted by cobalt
The early black base clear cars had clear issues although this car is metallic it might have suffered from the same issue and was re cleared. Those numbers are just too high in some areas and average in others. .
Are the stone guards on the rear fenders correct - they appear small? The only reason you would swap those out on a 9k car would be if you were doing something to the paint.




The rings around the gauges seem dried out.

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Old 02-01-2021, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by NACHTBLAU
Are the stone guards on the rear fenders correct - they appear small? The only reason you would swap those out on a 9k car would be if you were doing something to the paint.




The rings around the gauges seem dried out.
Actually the stone guards are from the turbo S with ducts. I have seen several midnight blue and black wide body cars but not all come from the factory with these instead of the taller ones. 993 was coming and they were clearing the shelves I guess. Not sure why it seems limited to midnight and black though. Unfortunately, they need the taller ones. You end up getting tiny chips just above them which you can see.

The rubber does that I wouldn't be concerned. Wipe it clean with a rag. It is a gorgeous example. Great color combo. I do recall of two other midnight blue 94's that had clear issues and had full resprays done with very low miles. I don't think it should hurt the value of this but doubt it left the factory that way. No pictures of the door jams so that could tell a lot. The lower half of the car does look original it appears to be top side mostly. If the right two people bid this might see some crazy money.
Old 02-01-2021, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by NACHTBLAU
Are the stone guards on the rear fenders correct - they appear small? The only reason you would swap those out on a 9k car would be if you were doing something to the paint.




The rings around the gauges seem dried out.
that does not look like factory paint, not to mention whats going on with other parts of the car...
Old 02-01-2021, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by kkswow12
that does not look like factory paint, not to mention whats going on with other parts of the car...
The paint definitely looks off, it’s lacking the reflective qualities and depth you would normally see on the 964 factory paint.

But there’s no doubt it is a 9k mile garage queen based upon the undercarriage, engine and interior.


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