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Old 11-22-2023, 09:28 AM
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I have a builders kit and wiring harness I’ll sell you! Send me a PM
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Old 12-11-2023, 01:43 PM
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Just as an update to this:

Selling my old Boost Brothers 944 07K swap builders kit as I’ve had a new opportunity come up and will be totally revamping my build.

All parts have been used, but are in excellent shape.

As this is the builders kit it is missing certain items like the intake and exhaust manifolds, thermostat housing adapter, etc. This is almost everything you will require to get started, but is geared towards someone willing to take a more custom approach to their build.

Includes:
- Machined upper oil pan
- Lower oil pan sump
- Oil pickup and bracket
- iAbed oil filter block w/ gaskets and fittings
- VDO 360-009 Oil Pressure Sensor for factory 944 gauge
- Power steering pump mount
- 1.8T Power Steering Pulley
- Engine mounts w/ isolator bushings
- iAbed Valve cover and breather box
- Bellhousing w/ pilot bearing adapter and bearing
- Pilot bearing and adapter plate
- All hardware and extra seals

Also includes a Pulsar 5455G Turbo (Garrett G30-660 equivalent) and PE3-8400 Standalone ECU with both a dyno tune for 427HP and the base tune from Boost Brothers Garage.

Ecu kit includes:
- PE-8400 ECU
- 07K Wiring harness
- Wideband Bluetooth O2
- MAC Boost Controller
- Race Dash LCD
- Dash Mount LCD Case
- Handheld Mount LCD Case
- PE Fuel Pressure Sensor
- Quad lock windshield mount
- ECU mounting bracket
- Extra wiring, connectors, and cable shielding

Asking $8,750 CAD / $6,500 USD

To be sold as a complete kit, will not piece meal.

Priority will be given to Canadians for the sake of e-transfer over PayPal.

Located in Calgary, AB

Shipping to be paid at buyers expense.








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Soooooo, I`m still alive and started pulling my stock engine today . I`m hoping to have the 07k bolted in by Wednesday and then deal with all the little systems .
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Old 12-14-2023, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by alxdgr8
Updated 8/29/2019

This thread is to document the "07k" swap into a 944/968 chassis. The 07k engine is a 2.5L 20-valve inline 5-cylinder engine from VAG.

I started this thread over 5 years ago and I'm so glad that some great minds have joined together to bring this to fruition! Thank you to all of you!

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Parts needed for swap: Further detailed descriptions are available on the NineX Engineering website
  • Base swap kit from Boost Brothers Garage - $1250This kit is not a complete swap kit! More components are currently under development. The kit includes the following parts:
    • Engine Mounts - Right & Left w/ Isolators
    • Billet Valve Cover w/ Breather Box
    • Oil Filter Block w/ Gasket and Fittings
    • Power Steering Pump Mount
    • 1.8T Power Steering Pulley (Designed to mount VW 1.8T PS pump p/n 1J0422152G, NOT INCLUDED)
    • All Hardware and Insructions Included
    • OPTIONAL: Aluminum Solid Mount Pucks
  • Bellhousing & Pilot Bearing Adapter from Boost Brothers Garage - $770
    • Designed specifically for the 944 / 968 to attach directly to the Porsche torque tube, this bellhousing mates up to the factory 07K engine mounting holes and alignment dowels. There is room inside the bellhousing for a 240 mm VW "02M" flywheel and pressure plate. An 02M starter bolts to the reverse mount face. Removable plugs are included for clutch disk inspection and slave cylinder hydraulic line installation or removal. A GM hydraulic release bearing (part number 24249824 NOT INCLUDED) bolts directly inside of the bellhousing, or a simple adapter can be made to mount a VW release bearing, if desired.
  • 944 07k Swap Flywheel by Spec from Boost Brothers Garage - $400-500 depending on options
    • A flywheel and pressure plate made for the VW "02M" 6-speed transmission will bolt up to the 07K crankshaft. This is a larger diameter flywheel (240 mm) than what the 07K originally came with. The 02M starter location in our bellhousing will mesh with the 02M flywheel ring gear. These parts are available from SPEC Clutches and Flywheels:
      • 02M Aluminum flywheel with ring gear is part number SV81A
      • 02M Steel flywheel with ring gear is part number SV81S
    • Available in steel or aluminum, and 6-bolt or 8-bolt
  • Clutch and Pressure Plate - $575-825 depending on torque rating
    • The NineX Engineering flywheel accepts 240mm pressure plates for a VW 02M tranmission
    • Clutch discs that fit are 240mm 944 Turbo (951). If a turbocharger is planned for your 07K swap, a clutch disk made for a high horsepower 944 Turbo (951) should be used. SPEC sells 951 disks with an extended 1.07" hub and spline for this purpose. The disk should be paired with the chosen pressure plate stage.
    • Complete SPEC Clutch packages for the 07K 944 / 968 swap can be ordered on the Boost Brothers Garage store for $575-825 depending on torque rating.
  • Oil Pan - COMING SOON from NineX Engineering
    • The stock 07K cast upper pan will be modified to clear the 944 cross member and steering rack. A new lower pan will be fabricated to bolt onto the upper pan, and will have an enlarged sump and custom oil pickup. Design is in process.
  • Intake Manifold - COMING SOON from NineX Engineer
    • Cast aluminum intake manifold designed for longitudinal 07K applications, and to fit under the hood and clear the vacuum brake booster on a 944 / 968. The stock 07K throttle body or a '96-'98 VR6 throttle body will bolt on. Designed to use the stock 07K gaskets at the throttle body flange and cylinder head. The original 07K fuel rail and injectors will bolt right on. Alternatively, 997 Turbo injectors can be used, but a different fuel rail will be needed in order to clock the twin spray pattern correctly.
  • Exhaust Manifold
    • The NineX Engineering engine mounts have been designed to allow the use of aSpa Turbo TMW17 cast manifold$349 along with a Garrett G25-660 reverse rotation turbo
      • The TMW17 manifold is a GGG40 cast manifold, with a T3 turbocharger Flange; manifold accepts 2 bolt 38mm wastegates.
    • A left side Lamborghini Gallardo exhaust manifold (from a 5.0L car) p/n 07L253034A can be slightly modified to fit the 07k and provide a forward facing manifold (for turbo or N/A).
  • ECU and Wiring Harness - COMING SOON
    • NineX Engineering has teamed up with Performance Electronics to provide an engine wiring harness and standalone ECU custom designed for the 944 07k swap.
    • There is also the potential of using the OE wiring/ECU with some modifications. VEMS is also a very highly used budget standalone ECU in the Audi I5 world with a wide user base and several 07k swapped cars running on it.
Other necessary parts under development:
  • Rear coolant flange
  • Thermostat housing

Parts the NineX Engineering Kit is designed to use but does not include:
  • VW 1.8T power steering pump, P/N 1J0422152G
  • 07k OE oil pressure sender
  • GM clutch hydraulic release bearing, P/N 24249824
  • 07k OE fuel rail and injectors
  • 07k OE throttle body or '96-'98 VR6 throttle body
  • VW 02m starter
Other parts you'll probably need:
  • Fuel lines to reach OE position
  • Custom radiator and cooling hoses
  • Engine internals
    • Pistons
    • Rods
    • Bearings
    • Cams
Out of scope:
  • Air conditioning
what’s the best price ?
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For what?
Old 01-18-2024, 02:51 PM
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Default Harmonic Balancer

Has anyone found an alternative to the 2012 or 13 TTRS harmonic balancer? These have jumped to $900+ in price for a new one and a used one on ebay right now is $560.

Has anyone tried fitting one from a DAZA engine?
Old 01-25-2024, 05:57 PM
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I see the Audi dealer price as 560 USD.

https://parts.audiusa.com/p/Audi_202...K105243AA.html
Old 01-29-2024, 04:59 PM
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Default My swap has officially begun!

My car is a 1984 NA 944 with a slick top with 5 speed, it is in excellent condition, a show winner in the past. However the tinkerer/engineer in me can’t leave well enough alone.

I’ve purchased a BGQ engine from a 2007 Jetta. I saw the engine run before it was removed and the engine runs beautifully. I just started to remove unwanted systems, hoses and plastic junk and I realized that I need to save some of the sensors and systems, and made a list of what to save. I should have cleaned the engine before stating to disassemble parts, that’s next.

The sensors I will save on the engine or are needed are:
  • One Wide band O2 sensor. my car will not have a cat on it, so not two sensors upstream and downstream of the catalytic converter. This comes with the performance electronics standalone ECU kit.
  • Fuel pressure sensor, to be purchased.
  • Engine coolant sensor to remain on the engine.
  • Ignition coil connectors
  • Injectors
  • Cam angle sensor
  • Crankshaft position sensor
  • Oil pressure sensor
  • Existing Throttle body and accelerator pedal position sensor. I will probably buy an accelerator pedal from a Jetta to work with it.
  • Air intake sensor
  • MAF sensor.
I will purchase a swap kit from BBG when one is available, I’m on the list to purchase one. Hopefully it won’t take too long, but I may have a bit of a pause with my build until I can get one.

My plan is to get the thing running naturally aspirated, with the internal engine parts as is. Then phase two will be to modify with a Rotrex supercharger and rebuild the engine after the bugs are out of the car running NA.
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Old 02-01-2024, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by JWebber
Soooooo, I`m still alive and started pulling my stock engine today . I`m hoping to have the 07k bolted in by Wednesday and then deal with all the little systems .
Did you install your engine yet? What issues did you run into?

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Originally Posted by rmm177
I see the Audi dealer price as 560 USD.

https://parts.audiusa.com/p/Audi_202...K105243AA.html

Can anyone confirm that this part fits the steel block engines?
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Originally Posted by Aleutian
Can anyone confirm that this part fits the steel block engines?
The web site says it WILL NOT fit a 2012-2013 TTRS.

Sorry for the wrong Info. My bad.
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Awesome news ! By all means ,,, confirm the clutch release . I love to see things coming together .
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Some “upgrades” to my engine, in progress.
Mahle pistons with 22 mm wrist pins.
IE Tuscan rods
ARP main stud kit
Upper and lower timing chains and tensioners (completed)




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^^^ That's looking fantastic! Should be a very reliable build with those parts.

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What are IE Tuscan rods? Are they stock rods that have been modified by Integrated Engineering?


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