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Old 03-09-2024, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by The_TylerDavis
I think a lot of us have moved to the 07K 944 Facebook group.
Please encourage those folks to come back to Rennlist for their discussions.

This type of message board forum is an infinitely superior format for tracking builds and sharing info and photos, than FB.
The decline of boards in favor of FB over the last few years is a great tragedy. Used to be you could find useful info by searching or asking on a forum.
Now you go to a FB group and get 300 uninformed opinions and no useful info.
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Originally Posted by rmm177
Some “upgrades” to my engine, in progress.
Mahle pistons with 22 mm wrist pins.
IE Tuscan rods
ARP main stud kit
Upper and lower timing chains and tensioners (completed)


Have you tried fitting your ARP main stud kit yet. I bought the set from integrated engineering and tried installing it on a CBUA engine and on 5 of the caps the nut side of the threads are too large to fit inside the cap and the #4 cap that I did the thrust bearing mod already on has a tighter tolerance hole and the body of the ARP stud won't even go into that one. I installed the stud on the other 5 caps after the caps were in place and they do not seat all the way down and stick up about 3/8-1/2" to high imo.

Not sure if I want to go with the 12-13 TTRS main cap bolts or if I want to ream out all of my caps now... I have not heard of this issue from anyone else.
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Originally Posted by Aleutian
Have you tried fitting your ARP main stud kit yet. I bought the set from integrated engineering and tried installing it on a CBUA engine and on 5 of the caps the nut side of the threads are too large to fit inside the cap and the #4 cap that I did the thrust bearing mod already on has a tighter tolerance hole and the body of the ARP stud won't even go into that one. I installed the stud on the other 5 caps after the caps were in place and they do not seat all the way down and stick up about 3/8-1/2" to high imo.

Not sure if I want to go with the 12-13 TTRS main cap bolts or if I want to ream out all of my caps now... I have not heard of this issue from anyone else.

If you change to ARP main on girdle you need to line bore the block hence the higher clamp load.
Old 04-09-2024, 08:42 AM
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I’m still in process of working on the head, and have not installed the ARP studs yet. I’ll post my results when I reattached the head to the block.

Bob

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Old 04-11-2024, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by rmm177
I’m still in process of working on the head, and have not installed the ARP studs yet. I’ll post my results when I reattached the head to the block.

Bob
What headwork are you doing?
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What headwork are you doing?
I’m installing IE valve springs and retainers to reduce valve float at higher rpm.
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Old 05-03-2024, 01:35 PM
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Hi i hope someone can help me understand the rear coolant neck please.

1) what is the attachment method or cap called here. Also what is it used for?

2) is this a steam vent?

3) what are the threads here, im assuming m14?

4) what is this used for?

5) what are these called, where do they go

6) this is connected to the top radiator port correct?
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Originally Posted by Pdh

Hi i hope someone can help me understand the rear coolant neck please.

1) what is the attachment method or cap called here. Also what is it used for?

2) is this a steam vent?

3) what are the threads here, im assuming m14?

4) what is this used for?

5) what are these called, where do they go

6) this is connected to the top radiator port correct?
1. Stock 07K Coolant Temp Sensor (06A919501A)
2. I see people in the thread using it for steam vent. Capping it or using it for Turbo cooling makes the most sense to me
3. Stock 944 Coolant Temp Sensor
4. This would feed your heater core and/or bypass to one of the ports on the water pump for when the engine isn't up to temp yet for the thermostat to open
5. Gasket. They will come preinstalled. The nylock nuts replace the stock ones.
6. Correct. Top radiator port
Old 05-17-2024, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by machzel08
1. Stock 07K Coolant Temp Sensor (06A919501A)
2. I see people in the thread using it for steam vent. Capping it or using it for Turbo cooling makes the most sense to me
3. Stock 944 Coolant Temp Sensor
4. This would feed your heater core and/or bypass to one of the ports on the water pump for when the engine isn't up to temp yet for the thermostat to open
5. Gasket. They will come preinstalled. The nylock nuts replace the stock ones.
6. Correct. Top radiator port
thanks a lot! Very helpful. Lastly you you have a specific 944 coolant sensor that works? Because the last 944 coolant sensor I bought had an m12x1.5 thread pitch when I believe the correct thread is m14 on the coolant neck. Needless to say the sensor didn't fit the coolant neck even though the part number seemed correct for an oem 944 sensor.

thanks

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Old 05-19-2024, 11:24 PM
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Hey everybody! Finally making progress on the swap but I do have a couple questions for the wonderful people who have done this already.

1) On the iAbed oil filter manifold, there is a port for an oil pressure sensor. The plug on the stock 07K oil pressure sensor that came on my (later model) engine do not match the plug on the wiring harness. Does anyone know what part number sensor is designed to go there in our application?

2} I have read that a couple people are using the stock 944 oil pressure sender. Does the late model oil pressure sender (Part#: 021-919-081-D) fit in the oil pressure sensor hole in the iAbed oil block? I have an early 944 so the oil pressure sender is much too large and would need some crazy adapter.

3) Because I am using a later model 07K, it has the oil pressure control valve right in the way of the engine mount. I may have missed it in my most recent skim of this thread, but does anyone have a picture of how much they notched the engine mount to make way for that valve?

4) and finally (for now) is it safe to assume that the threaded port on the rear coolant flange (labeled #3 a couple posts above) is made for the long later model 944 coolant temp sensor (Part#: 928-606-201-01) ? Again I have an early car so it has the tiny little coolant temp sensor (Part#: 930-606-118-00) that doesn't fit that port at all.

Thanks in advance!
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Originally Posted by Pdh
thanks a lot! Very helpful. Lastly you you have a specific 944 coolant sensor that works? Because the last 944 coolant sensor I bought had an m12x1.5 thread pitch when I believe the correct thread is m14 on the coolant neck. Needless to say the sensor didn't fit the coolant neck even though the part number seemed correct for an oem 944 sensor.

thanks
I haven't actually installed it yet. I'm hoping the one I yank out of my existing engine fits. Sorry.

Originally Posted by JimCafe

Hey everybody! Finally making progress on the swap but I do have a couple questions for the wonderful people who have done this already.

1) On the iAbed oil filter manifold, there is a port for an oil pressure sensor. The plug on the stock 07K oil pressure sensor that came on my (later model) engine do not match the plug on the wiring harness. Does anyone know what part number sensor is designed to go there in our application?

2} I have read that a couple people are using the stock 944 oil pressure sender. Does the late model oil pressure sender (Part#: 021-919-081-D) fit in the oil pressure sensor hole in the iAbed oil block? I have an early 944 so the oil pressure sender is much too large and would need some crazy adapter.

3) Because I am using a later model 07K, it has the oil pressure control valve right in the way of the engine mount. I may have missed it in my most recent skim of this thread, but does anyone have a picture of how much they notched the engine mount to make way for that valve?

4) and finally (for now) is it safe to assume that the threaded port on the rear coolant flange (labeled #3 a couple posts above) is made for the long later model 944 coolant temp sensor (Part#: 928-606-201-01) ? Again I have an early car so it has the tiny little coolant temp sensor (Part#: 930-606-118-00) that doesn't fit that port at all.

Thanks in advance!
1) The harness is designed for the Haltech HT-010904 https://www.haltech.com/product/ht-0...essure-sensor/ , The iABED block is tapped for the stock 07K sensor. You can either tap that hole to be 1/8" NPT or screw in the stock sensor and just not wire it. The stock "sensor" is simply a contact closure when at the right pressure. Not really worth using. Heads up I had a hard time getting the stock sensor in there with the engine mount bracket. Had to shave some of the sensor.

2) It is a tight fit for any sensor in that area. What I am doing is using an adapter to go from M10x1.0 to -4AN fitting. A short -4AN hose. -4AN to 1/8" NPT Tee. VDO-360009 (Stock pressure gauge but 1/8" NPT) and Haltech sensor on the other side of the Tee. Instead of a Tee you could go straight in to the VDO sensor.

3) Haven't had to do this but if you hold up the mount you can see its not much. Maybe half an inch. Could do it with a file.

4) I wish to know the same thing.
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the 944 gauge coolant sender is M14x1.5 (84+), the DME sender is the smaller one with a plastic plug that is M12.

the very early 944 uses an M10x1.0 sender, but it works the same as the M14 later one.

FWIW VDO makes a number of different senders, all with the same 250F range and resistance curves, but different thread types for different applications.
i have a 250F sensor with a 1/2 NPT thread in my V6 swap 944 and the gauge works right on.

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Old 05-27-2024, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by V2Rocket
the 944 gauge coolant sender is M14x1.5 (84+), the DME sender is the smaller one with a plastic plug that is M12.

the very early 944 uses an M10x1.0 sender, but it works the same as the M14 later one.

FWIW VDO makes a number of different senders, all with the same 250F range and resistance curves, but different thread types for different applications.
i have a 250F sensor with a 1/2 NPT thread in my V6 swap 944 and the gauge works right on.
life saver. Thank you!
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Does anyone know where to source a crankshaft from? I've looked everywhere for this part number 07K105101P and it seems to be backordered at every dealer. Anyone got a spare for sale?
Old 06-05-2024, 09:55 PM
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What’s the point of an engine swap where you have to use a specific hard to find crankshaft?

Isn’t the point of the engine swap something that makes more power while being easier/cheaper to build and run than the stock one?

What’s wrong with a standard 07K crank ?


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