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Old 07-15-2023, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Cam07
I’ve seen this slightly used 2023 Spyder listed, but not sure how the dealer can remotely justify the asking price. The original MSRP was $131,380 with an asking price of $165,000, or a 25.6% mark-up.

Porsche South Austin - 2023 Spyder

I think I’ve convinced myself to justifying paying over MSRP, but there’s definitely a limit to that. Especially if it’s not something like a PTS.
Burm, 18 ways, and PDK…how did that get to $131K MSRP?
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The Burmester sound system & factory navigation alone added $7k to the MSRP. Those don’t add any value to a Spyder in my opinion - at least not anywhere close to $7k.

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Old 07-23-2023, 05:04 PM
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Anyone know this car? Seems too good to be true of a price . . .

https://www.mclarenscottsdale.com/in...e2a86ps280270/
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Originally Posted by PiB993
Anyone know this car? Seems too good to be true of a price . . .

https://www.mclarenscottsdale.com/in...e2a86ps280270/
$270k for a 4RS? Am I missing something? Seems like a terrible deal
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Originally Posted by momo360
$270k for a 4RS? Am I missing something? Seems like a terrible deal
+1...no PCCBs and no mag wheels. They won't even get $250k for that car.
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Old 07-23-2023, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PiB993
Anyone know this car? Seems too good to be true of a price . . .

https://www.mclarenscottsdale.com/in...e2a86ps280270/
They state the price is about $10k below "MSRP." Problem is, the "MSRP" is not the MSRP. The MSRP is barely $174k. It was on BaT: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...yman-gt4-rs-3/ and didn't sell at $230k. With the fee it's $235k, which is $59k over, which seems to be market for a build-slot ADM.

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Originally Posted by momo360
$270k for a 4RS? Am I missing something? Seems like a terrible deal

The only thing you are missing is the unreality forcefield that has consumed the seller's sense of reality today.
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Old 07-25-2023, 06:33 PM
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This Spyder closes tomorrow.

Owner paid ADM and a bunch of dealer added services.

Guessing RNM or owner takes a bath…

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...-718-spyder-6/

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Old 07-25-2023, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TXshaggy

Guessing RNM or owner takes a bath…

Why do you say that? Options? Market conditions?
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Originally Posted by SpyderSenseOC
Why do you say that? Options? Market conditions?
He paid 140 for a 115k car. For non-PTS, non-bucket build, he may get 10 over at best. If he's underwater on his 140k loan, he may have reserve set high.
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Originally Posted by momo360
He paid 140 for a 115k car. For non-PTS, non-bucket build, he may get 10 over at best. If he's underwater on his 140k loan, he may have reserve set high.
I'd be surprised if BAT allowed a reserve to be inflated by PPF and other add ons. But who knows.
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Originally Posted by momo360
He paid 140 for a 115k car. For non-PTS, non-bucket build, he may get 10 over at best. If he's underwater on his 140k loan, he may have reserve set high.
Yep.

As a minimum he paid around $142; but if you look at the final picture…he finances almost $140 after apparently putting $15K down.

I don’t know, mats hurt my head but looks like he’s hugely underwater.

Lots of garbage on that final finance sheet.
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I have a feeling it'll also go RNM. Boring color, no buckets, no pccb's, nothing special about the car. BaT allowed a reserve of 115-120 max on it is my guess.
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Is the general consensus that a 10% premium over the original MSRP is about market (unless it a very special PTS, etc) for a used example? I seem to run across most dealers still asking at least 15% over even after negotiations. I’m in the market for a Spyder, but don’t want to overpay just like the next guy. I guess the market will speak if a car sits for too long as they’re only worth what someone is willing to pay. Patience is key I suppose…I’m also probably in the minority wanting a PDK with the 18-ways. I had the original gen 987 Spyder with buckets and got tired of the gymnastics getting in & out - though they looked great.
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Originally Posted by Cam07
Is the general consensus that a 10% premium over the original MSRP is about market (unless it a very special PTS, etc) for a used example? I seem to run across most dealers still asking at least 15% over even after negotiations. I’m in the market for a Spyder, but don’t want to overpay just like the next guy. I guess the market will speak if a car sits for too long as they’re only worth what someone is willing to pay. Patience is key I suppose…I’m also probably in the minority wanting a PDK with the 18-ways. I had the original gen 987 Spyder with buckets and got tired of the gymnastics getting in & out - though they looked great.
From what I've seen, the markup varies based on year, mileage, and options. I suspect that dealers charging a premium is largely due to CPO that provides an additional two-year warranty and perhaps a bit more piece of mind. Worth it? All up to the individual, but the dealers around me seem to move these cars relatively quickly...
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