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Old 12-07-2023, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by John Mclane
Not even that. I sold a car that was resold as CPO in a matter of days. Very used Cup2s on a base carrera, also girodisc rotors and pagid pads (imagine why). I saw the car in the parking lot a few weeks later, all those aftermarket items were still there.
We purchased a car with remaining factory warranty that had worn out tires and brake discs/pads when we put our deposit down. We had to wait several weeks for them to get all of the necessary parts to put it back to stock, but that is what they did. I don't think the fact that it was sitting there several weeks later with the aftermarket items is an indication it was sold that way.
Old 12-07-2023, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by needmoregarage

Based on personal experience, I do not trust CPO, and to me it has no meaning in terms of the condition of the car. It does provide some added warranty so there’s value there, but just because a car “passes” (qualifies for) CPO doesn’t mean it’s been properly inspected, or that it doesn’t have some type of prior damage. I know because I bought my first Porsche that had been CPO’d and it turned out there was a problem and it was clear the dealer sold it knowing that it had a significant defect. That selling dealer was forced to make it right and my local dealer coordinated everything for me. But that experience taught me that CPO doesn’t mean s***. YMMV
That sounds more like deceitful dealer, not a problem with CPO. And my mention of CPO was to indicate properly maintained and with an intact warranty.

Originally Posted by John Mclane
Not even that. I sold a car that was resold as CPO in a matter of days. Very used Cup2s on a base carrera, also girodisc rotors and pagid pads (imagine why). I saw the car in the parking lot a few weeks later, all those aftermarket items were still there.
At my local dealer CPO means no aftermarket anything on the car, not pads or even tires, they too have to be N-Spec and newer than 4 years as date coded.

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Old 12-07-2023, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by rcfun33
We purchased a car with remaining factory warranty that had worn out tires and brake discs/pads when we put our deposit down. We had to wait several weeks for them to get all of the necessary parts to put it back to stock, but that is what they did. I don't think the fact that it was sitting there several weeks later with the aftermarket items is an indication it was sold that way.
It was, replaced all of it later on the same Indy I use. Aftermarket parts are not a deterrent for CPO. Neither prior crash. PCCB is not accurately measured (there's a specific tool). I traded a 911 with X-pipe, offered the original resonator for free so they can get it back to stock, they said no, thanks.
CPO is a joke.
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Old 12-07-2023, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by rcfun33
We purchased a car with remaining factory warranty that had worn out tires and brake discs/pads when we put our deposit down. We had to wait several weeks for them to get all of the necessary parts to put it back to stock, but that is what they did. I don't think the fact that it was sitting there several weeks later with the aftermarket items is an indication it was sold that way.
It was, replaced all of it later on the same Indy I use. Aftermarket parts are not a deterrent for CPO. Neither prior crash. PCCB is not accurately measured (there's a specific tool). I traded a 911 with X-pipe, offered the original resonator for free so they can get it back to stock, they said no, thanks.

I said that in another thread. My 992 warranty was voided bc of tuning. It needed a short block as a plug melted in the cylinder and piston. I traded as is, ate the loss. The car was fixed, theoretically with the rest of the drivetrain voided of warranty, particularly the turbos. They sold to an auction, bought by a dealer that sold as guess what? CPO. It visits the PA dealer every month according to carfax.

CPO is a joke.
Old 12-08-2023, 11:24 AM
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someone snagged a pretty good deal on this 4RS Weissach. $220k after premium

https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/2...sche-gt4-rs-1/
Old 12-08-2023, 11:32 AM
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One of the local Houston PCA members is selling a 2022 GTS 4.0. Its listed on Autotrader at $109k but he's posted on the PCA group that he'll take $104,500 for it. Original sticker $107k.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing




Old 12-08-2023, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by John Mclane
CPO is a joke.
The additional warranty is a benefit. Probably the only benefit. But value nonetheless, especially if selling privately and that warranty goes with the car.
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https://www.porschelongbeach.com/inv...c2a88lk289150/
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Old 12-09-2023, 07:50 AM
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I'm on the prowl for a 2022-23 Spyder with manual and non-buckets, and ideally ceramics if possible. Not black or Python.

If anyone knows of one, please let me know!

THANKS
Old 12-10-2023, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by UncleDude
So why do dealers seem to prioritize mileage above all else if buyers aren't driving that narrative? Is just a case of the dealers using it as leverage, so when you trade in it is a huge deal, when you buy "the car has been well maintained"? I've talked to GM's who say buyers look for mileage first, above all else! Is Rennlist an exception?
rennlist in general is an exception to how normal buyers perceive buying and selling cars in my opinion.
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Perfect holiday spec for a Christmas enthusiast 🥴

https://www.carmax.com/car/25087979
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Originally Posted by Fizzy
Perfect holiday spec for a blind enthusiast 🥴

https://www.carmax.com/car/25087979
Fixed that for you
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Originally Posted by rusmani
Fixed that for you
😅 I don’t think I’ve ever been so disgusted
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Come on guys it wasn't a garage queen like most.

Peter
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Originally Posted by Fizzy
Perfect holiday spec for a Christmas enthusiast 🥴

https://www.carmax.com/car/25087979
No longer available. Santa must be readying his sleigh.

At some point, Porsche just needs to step in and say "no".

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