UncleDude

lol what? You can’t have a bright GTS? Damn.

SpyderSenseOC

I agree with your analysis. I would NEVER buy a car with track history sight unseen. Especially without a DME.

TXshaggy

Don’t know how it can be three years old; 2021MY cars weren’t released to US owners until Nov (EPA) or Dec (CARB) of 2020. This one has a 12/20 production date.

Anyway, just one data point among many that peak 981/982 GT/GTS was last summer.

Xxyion

Was taking a look at the comment section of the auction. And it looks like the reason a majority of people didn't bid was because there was no communication from the seller. Looks like English is not the Sellers first language and also didn't quite understand how BAT works. He basically listed it and walked away assuming people would treat this like buying something on cars.com or something similar. Due to lack of communication, a lot of people started assuming that he was hiding something and was basically discouraging others from putting in bids.

Based on all of this, I would guess that if the seller had treated the auction the way he needed to, this car would have easily sold for over MSRP as it seemed like a pretty desirable spec based on comments. This tells me that it was more seller issue rather than the market really softening like people are hoping.

sin911

Never said that you cant have a bright colored GTS, but why choose GTS over GT4/Spyder unless you want less attention? The price difference is not that big if ADM is taken out of the equation. No wing, less aggressive styling, yet the same engine.

sin911

My bad on that, thought it was a 2020 model. The GT4 posted below that was a 2020.

manifold danger

Lots to unpack here, there are plenty of reasons but you pointed out a major one. The cost difference and availability is a major factor, and at least right now and in the foreseeable future, there's no escaping the ADM.

Also the GTS isn't just about "attention", it's more livable. I would probably deal with the "unlivability" though if I was in a better climate where the roof wasn't such an issue. For me that's the biggest dealbreaker, but the ADM pushed it to the nonsensical realm.

Archimedes

One need look no further than the Marketplace to see that the used market has softened. None of the high priced GT4s or Spyders are selling, even after the sellers have knocked $15-30k off their ridiculous asking prices. There are lots of hooks in the water, but the fish just aren’t biting, and every day the stock market goes down and rates go up, the used market will just fall further. The question isn’t whether the market has softened, it’s what is the likelihood of a recovery in the Spring if we’re moving into a full blown recession. Will spring fever drive the market back up in the face of a weakening economy.

TXRubicon

lol what are you talking about?

maroli

It's observationally interesting how asset holders in a declining market get so wrapped up in denialism that they start resembling the band that continued to play on the Titanic as it sank. That's not limited to cars or even this forum but certainly doesn't seem immune. There was an asset bubble that took prices on everything from lumber to NFTs beyond what they would be in a normal environment and now it's rapidly deflating. How that's supportive of ADMs that were set at the height of the market for series production cars is beyond me. Buy the cars, drive it, enjoy it and if you're worried about what a whopping 10-20% depreciation has on your personal finances, you shouldn't have bought it but we all make mistakes.

SpyderSenseOC

Nice Guards Red with Aurum wheels and PCCB's for sale...

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Flexipino

Reading the "sellers comments" about the car gave me a headache haha

SpyderSenseOC

I know. They didn't even try to get the real info.

sin911

There’s not a lot of difference between a Cayman GTS 4.0 and a GT4; same chassis, less aggressive styling, no wing, slightly softer suspension. Even PDK is available on both models now. For a Boxster GTS 4.0 and Spyder it’s a different story due to automated roof. If there was no ADM premium for GT4/Spyders I’m pretty sure 80% of the Cayman GTS 4.0 buyers would prefer the GT4 over GTS 4.0. Let’s be real here.

The whole point to (build philosophy behind) the GTS 4.0 is to blend in rather than to stick out in my opinion.

absame

which is why the GTS is available it Guards Red, Speed Yellow, Python Green, shark blue, and … Ruby Star Neo!