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Old 04-06-2022, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by blackmist27
Even though I love that Porsche are trying to make club racing "affordable" its very clear its a wealthy man's game. When I ran Spec E30 for 3 years I think I spent about $15-20k per season to be a high mid pack car. Cant imagine what it would cost to actually have a Club GT4RS for a season with everything needed.
Depends on how much the team owner likes you lol. No testing, crash damage, etc. - ~70k/weekend for SRO GT4 SprintX, so ~$500k minimum for the season. A little more per weekend for IMSA given the longer races (more tires, fuel, crew, etc.) - I've heard $800k-$1M for full season budgets. Even MX5 Cup is over $150k/season nowadays.
Old 04-06-2022, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by steve0827
Depends on how much the team owner likes you lol. No testing, crash damage, etc. - ~70k/weekend for SRO GT4 SprintX, so ~$500k minimum for the season. A little more per weekend for IMSA given the longer races (more tires, fuel, crew, etc.) - I've heard $800k-$1M for full season budgets. Even MX5 Cup is over $150k/season nowadays.
Thats insane! And the reality is you are absolutely going to at least have contact or an off here and there... Well cheers to the folks that can pull that off!
Old 04-06-2022, 07:48 PM
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Guys, let’s get back to the thread discussion.

There is a Porsche Cup Car RL forum that includes a GT4 CS dedicated sub-forum for racing topics.

https://rennlist.com/forums/porsche-cup-cars-151/

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Old 04-06-2022, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by steve0827
Depends on how much the team owner likes you lol. No testing, crash damage, etc. - ~70k/weekend for SRO GT4 SprintX, so ~$500k minimum for the season. A little more per weekend for IMSA given the longer races (more tires, fuel, crew, etc.) - I've heard $800k-$1M for full season budgets. Even MX5 Cup is over $150k/season nowadays.
National level event, 50k per vehicle per event. Now throw in a significant endurance event (and depending on various damage cover) you can triple that number per car.

It puts the 4RS in perspective, a car that can cut lots of laps with mates, retain its warranty and you only need to deal with tires, brakes and fluids. Thats why RS models are so sought after.

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Old 04-07-2022, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by groundhog
It puts the 4RS in perspective, a car that can cut lots of laps with mates, retain its warranty and you only need to deal with tires, brakes and fluids. Thats why RS models are so sought after.
This...I quit racing a long time ago due to the cost and the logistics. Even took a vacation from anything sport car related didn't last too long of course.
Too bad a large number of RSs will never touch a track...not even an AutoX. They become C&C specials and last until Porsche comes out with a new shiny thing.
I don't say everyone should become a track rat but at least a couple of times everyone should experience what these cars were design for on a controlled environment.
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Old 04-07-2022, 06:19 PM
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Anyone notice the lifting paint behind the front wheel? I guess the road debris causes some damage there….

Cheers,
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Old 04-07-2022, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 998R
Anyone notice the lifting paint behind the front wheel? I guess the road debris causes some damage there….

Cheers,
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That area will need double ppf for sure.
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Old 04-07-2022, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jmartpr
This...I quit racing a long time ago due to the cost and the logistics. Even took a vacation from anything sport car related didn't last too long of course.
Too bad a large number of RSs will never touch a track...not even an AutoX. They become C&C specials and last until Porsche comes out with a new shiny thing.
I don't say everyone should become a track rat but at least a couple of times everyone should experience what these cars were design for on a controlled environment.
Yes, most definitely take your Porsche to the track at least a few times in your life. Then you truly get the chance to drive it like you stole it and enjoy the full capabilities of these cars as Porsche has intended. If you are new to the track, make sure at least once during the weekend you get a ride in your instructor's car to really see what these cars can do. That will be an eye opening experience on a whole other level of driving intensity that you may have never experienced. Street driving and track driving are two completely different animals. If you are brave, maybe you let them drive your car for a few laps to demonstrate its own specific capabilities.

If you are lucky enough to get a 4RS, and have never been to a track, you don't want to miss out on the experience. You will be simply be amazed.

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Old 04-07-2022, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 998R
Anyone notice the lifting paint behind the front wheel? I guess the road debris causes some damage there….

Cheers,
Harry.

Hope it's not worse than just paint damage. Aren't the front fenders carbon?
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Originally Posted by 998R
Anyone notice the lifting paint behind the front wheel? I guess the road debris causes some damage there….

Cheers,
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I totally noticed that!!!!
and yes, im sure ill PPF that but I am thinking maybe some sort of aftermarket stone guard kind of application
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Old 04-07-2022, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 998R
Anyone notice the lifting paint behind the front wheel? I guess the road debris causes some damage there….

Cheers,
Harry.

For those that are worried, I just found these on Suncoast Porsche Parts!




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Old 04-07-2022, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 998R
Anyone notice the lifting paint behind the front wheel? I guess the road debris causes some damage there….

Cheers,
Harry.


That's not debris damage...looks more like the fender got wacked with something, maybe from under it....and yes, it's CFRP.
That's a test car that journalist take out...so anything is possible, including jacking up the car int he wrong spot.
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Old 04-07-2022, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
I really enjoyed the positivity in this review and he's right to point out the ride quality given the reported spring rates (100 N/mm front and 140 N/mm rear or in olde worlde 571 lbs/inch front and 800 lbs/inch rear).

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Originally Posted by groundhog
I really enjoyed the positivity in this review and he's right to point out the ride quality given the reported spring rates (100 N/mm front and 140 N/mm rear or in olde worlde 571 lbs/inch front and 800 lbs/inch rear).
I liked Doug's honest review. I was glad he complained about the ride quality because when I drove a 718 GT4 manual on a rough and curvy road I thought the ride was very soft and therefore waited for the GT4RS. But I am used to my Cayman R driven from new, for 62K miles, by doing long drives on mountain roads , that can be rough, and I was hoping for a higher spring rate in the GT4RS. Porsche said they developed the GT4RS for the track, or mountain driving, or for pleasure driving where you take your GT4RS rather than taking your motorcycle. It is not for long drives or daily drives from my understanding.


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