blackmist27

That is amazing! we have too much demand here in Cali and the dealers are just eating it up

thuggo

Honestly I might pay 25k over once I get a better understanding how many they are actually going to build. But *shrugs* I'd personally rather have the Clubsport version at this point and my thinking on that is:

1.) I don't feel like going to jail driving it as its mean to be driven on the normal streets/backroads.
2.) If I'm pushing on an actual track, I'd rather have the better brakes and safety systems of the Clubsport anyway.

*shrugs*. Don't get me wrong I want one, but considering how much back pedaling my dealer has done in the past 3 months from "sure we'll get you an allocation no problem to we likely unable to get you one at this point"....I'm just losing interest in Porsche Street Cars.

steve0827

Race cars aren't much easier to get unless you're committing to compete in IMSA/SRO.

blackmist27

That is interesting... I didnt realize that.

As for the ATL dealers, I just called to speak with them about their policy but the sticker sale price only really applies to locals. Makes sense they can also make money on servicing of the vehicles. But the other problem is there is 0 cars to buy. they have huge lists and no allocations. taken tons of deposits for Turbo S, GT3s, GT4RS, etc...
Crazy market right now...

cooler2442

That's the issue right now, you can get on a MSRP list at some dealers but you either wait 2 years for a car or your name doesn't come up before production runs out/allocations are gone. Others are choosing to pay 15k(normal GT4 or Spyder)-100k(4RS) over MSRP to get a guaranteed allocation.

blackmist27

Yeah... Classic supply and demand.

thuggo

Oh...I think you'd be surprised. There's already been 1 4RS CS for sale, and there will be many more for sale by the end of the year.

steve0827

*new race cars are hard to come by unless you're committing to IMSA/SRO. There will always be used race cars popping up for sale, especially at the end of the season.

thuggo

Which is the better way to buy anyway unless you want to get raped by the federal gov for Tax.

groundhog

Yep and you'll find the engine and gear box hours are maxed out - which means you'll have to put a chunk aside to refresh both engine and gear box. If a car has been used IMSA/SRO/CUP it will likely have had a hit at one time or another. The repair quality being sufficient to make it through scuitineering.

thuggo

Used is still cheaper than committing to the series for a year.

groundhog

Yes, also if you commit to a series (a requirement if you want a current gen cup car) you will need to buy at least two and consumables for two (if you want to be competitive). If you buy used - you have to be very careful.

naparsei

There is no comparison between tracking a factory race car and a street car. I have heard, depending on the generation, the running costs for a Porsche race car is $3-$5k/hr. I don’t have first hand experience with this, but I own a 458GT3, and those numbers sound right, even with the Ferrari premium.

The amount of support stuff, electronics, etc you need to buy also is staggering, and some used car come with it, and some don’t. Plus you need at least one “guy” to help you in most cases. (some people can do it alone), and the amount of prep time to get on track is ridiculous.

IPSA

On a true race car, tires are 2500 per set mounted and balanced and last a day or less if driven hard.Proper support 1k+ per day.Transit is charged per mile. Fuel, 2 days at Sebring a week ago was 500 bucks in fuel. Then you need to amortize yearly , monthly or daily, other consumables, upkeep and driveline maintenance and or replacement. 5k a day easy with no" events " or major driveline issues.

Hotels, coaching ...

You can't take it with you as they say...

blackmist27

Even though I love that Porsche are trying to make club racing "affordable" its very clear its a wealthy man's game. When I ran Spec E30 for 3 years I think I spent about $15-20k per season to be a high mid pack car. Cant imagine what it would cost to actually have a Club GT4RS for a season with everything needed.