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Old 04-08-2022 | 08:55 AM
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This is definitely not going to help on the ADM department......
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Old 04-08-2022 | 11:50 AM
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This...I quit racing a long time ago due to the cost and the logistics. Even took a vacation from anything sport car related didn't last too long of course.
Too bad a large number of RSs will never touch a track...not even an AutoX. They become C&C specials and last until Porsche comes out with a new shiny thing.
I don't say everyone should become a track rat but at least a couple of times everyone should experience what these cars were design for on a controlled environment.
‘It’s ironic. When you have a tracked street car, you long to go WtW. After getting a truck, trailer, and a million other things, you then see guys drive up in the car you used to have, drive out directly on track, and you think to yourself how easy it used to be. 10% of the work and cost for 90% of the fun.
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Old 04-08-2022 | 12:06 PM
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Regarding the Doug Munro review and comments on the MT, given that most of you here are looking at major track time for the RS are there many or any of you that in that environment would want a MT over the PDK?
Old 04-08-2022 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by naparsei
‘It’s ironic. When you have a tracked street car, you long to go WtW. After getting a truck, trailer, and a million other things, you then see guys drive up in the car you used to have, drive out directly on track, and you think to yourself how easy it used to be. 10% of the work and cost for 90% of the fun.
We only only have one nearby track but it’s a great circuit that offers on site garages. I rented one and sold my trailer. With this arrangement I feel like I get the best of both worlds for my current life (young kids), but the downside for many is it doesn’t allow for easy away races. They’ll let me park a trailer at but I’m happy to not use one for a few years!
Old 04-08-2022 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Westcoast
Regarding the Doug Munro review and comments on the MT, given that most of you here are looking at major track time for the RS are there many or any of you that in that environment would want a MT over the PDK?

I think its a valid concern. IF Porsche does come out with a manual, I for sure would prefer that since I enjoy shifting my own gears regardless of lap times, it would mean that values on these initial cars could depreciate faster as they hit the open market. I think many would trade them in for the manual version. Then again, who knows? its a crazy market right now... The GT4RS is just a very special and desirable thing regardless of gearbox. anyone who will get one is extremely lucky
Old 04-08-2022 | 05:12 PM
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I think its a valid concern. IF Porsche does come out with a manual..
Impossible…….,,,,,, but then if Porsche is a consumer led company to an extent, and mostly profit led so anything is possible. Porsche has flip flopped before and I am glad it has.
Old 04-08-2022 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Westcoast
Regarding the Doug Munro review and comments on the MT, given that most of you here are looking at major track time for the RS are there many or any of you that in that environment would want a MT over the PDK?

The number of money shifts in a manual that accelerates as fast and hard as these do from 8 to 9 k would be astronomic ... Said otherwise a 50 k mistake waiting to happen.

Buy the manual GT4 if you want the old school experience.
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Originally Posted by IPSA
The number of money shifts in a manual that accelerates as fast and hard as these do from 8 to 9 k would be astronomic ... Said otherwise a 50 k mistake waiting to happen.

Buy the manual GT4 if you want the old school experience.
No, a money shift doesn’t result from not keeping up with the quick revs on upshifts (bouncing off the limiter is relatively harmless).

Only happens when you choose the wrong gear on downshift.

I think it would be awesome. People said a manual on the 991 GT3 would be crazy too - then came the 911R and 991.2 GT3 and 992 GT3 Manual…

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Old 04-08-2022 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by naparsei
‘It’s ironic. When you have a tracked street car, you long to go WtW. After getting a truck, trailer, and a million other things, you then see guys drive up in the car you used to have, drive out directly on track, and you think to yourself how easy it used to be. 10% of the work and cost for 90% of the fun.
Yup I haven't raced my own race car in a few years since my daughter was born. I decided to team up with others in their car which is actually pretty amazing (I always ran the team, it's super relaxing to just be a driver), and then moved back to instructing weekly which gives me more track time than I know what to do with.
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Old 04-08-2022 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by naparsei
‘It’s ironic. When you have a tracked street car, you long to go WtW. After getting a truck, trailer, and a million other things, you then see guys drive up in the car you used to have, drive out directly on track, and you think to yourself how easy it used to be. 10% of the work and cost for 90% of the fun.
This is so true.
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Old 04-09-2022 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
No, a money shift doesn’t result from not keeping up with the quick revs on upshifts (bouncing off the limiter is relatively harmless).

Only happens when you choose the wrong gear on downshift.

I think it would be awesome. People said a manual on the 991 GT3 would be crazy too - then came the 911R and 991.2 GT3 and 992 GT3 Manual…
High lateral load 3rd to 2nd instead of 4th. Seen it many times at multiple tracks in far slower accelerating cars. I should have been more specific.


Old 04-09-2022 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by blackmist27
I think its a valid concern. IF Porsche does come out with a manual, I for sure would prefer that since I enjoy shifting my own gears regardless of lap times, it would mean that values on these initial cars could depreciate faster as they hit the open market. I think many would trade them in for the manual version. Then again, who knows? its a crazy market right now... The GT4RS is just a very special and desirable thing regardless of gearbox. anyone who will get one is extremely lucky

I don't think the PDKs would depreciate if a Manual comes out....it's just another choice on an awesome car
Also keep in mind, the Manual / driver involvement movement is not that strong outside the US.....I can tell you from experiences on 981 GT4 Manual, 718 GT4 PDK and 991.2 GT3 Manual.
If the prospective used car buyer is a collector/Porsche enthusiast/manual fan then they will gravitate towards those models but the fact is that a large number of potential buyers on the used car market, and I'm not talking about RL, are not into those categories and a PDK is sometime a must for them...easier to sell. At least that's my experience south of the border.....
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Old 04-09-2022 | 09:17 AM
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Here is a good pic showing the wrap applied at cutout as well as a scrape in the front wheel where FOD got between caliper and barrel.



Old 04-09-2022 | 09:32 AM
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I would have ordered my car in manual if they had offered it. And my car will mostly be used on track.
I'd be pissed if they later come out with the option.
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I would have ordered my car in manual if they had offered it. And my car will mostly be used on track.
I'd be pissed if they later come out with the option.
It's called being an early adopter...
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