718 GT4RS
11-17-2021, 03:22 PM
#4066
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"Ask Andreas Preuninger and he'll gladly tell you it was just an engineering problem that kept the GT3 boxer away from Caymans past. The 991-gen GT3 engine had a cast-aluminum dry sump oil tank that would not fit in a Cayman without major reengineering. But the new 992 -gen GT3 engine was designed with a composite dry-sump tank specifically designed to fit the Cayman."
So it seems that AP wasn't lying as the 992 engine is "different" and that he was referring to the 991 GT3 engine when it said the engine wouldn't fit. There you have it.
So it seems that AP wasn't lying as the 992 engine is "different" and that he was referring to the 991 GT3 engine when it said the engine wouldn't fit. There you have it.
11-17-2021, 03:23 PM
#4067
11-17-2021, 03:27 PM
#4068
I haven't seen this video posted.....AP goes over several details of the car:
11-17-2021, 03:31 PM
#4069
Burning Brakes
Probably not. But it is certainly unethical marketing for Porsche to represent their recent GT4RS Nuremberg lap time as if it were a production street car if it was not. And I think we can all agree that tires in particular play an outsized factor in the overall performance of any vehicle - Tire choice can dramatically improve braking, acceleration, and cornering simultaneously.
11-17-2021, 03:36 PM
#4070
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11-17-2021, 03:37 PM
#4071
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My .02 as a previous 981 GT4 owner and current 718 GT4 owner..
1. Yes, the car is still held back with the tire sizing vs a GT3.
2. I like the look personally, form follows function but still an eye for appearance.
3. I think it looks cleaner without the WP.
4. Intake scoops and sound are mega. Hopefully the GT4 cat back exhausts will fit and an OPF deleted, merged flat six wail can be had.
5. Not looking forward to centerlocks or 20" track tires/wheels.
6. 40K is a bit hit over a GT4, and closer to a GT3. But it's really only a 30K hit since LWB and PDK are included, 27K if the rumored 3% GT4 price increase is true. 27K for the content over a GT4 is a freaking steal in my opinion.
Summary: They put the GT3 engine and close ratio PDK transmission in an already fantastic car. TAKE. MY. MONEY.
1. Yes, the car is still held back with the tire sizing vs a GT3.
2. I like the look personally, form follows function but still an eye for appearance.
3. I think it looks cleaner without the WP.
4. Intake scoops and sound are mega. Hopefully the GT4 cat back exhausts will fit and an OPF deleted, merged flat six wail can be had.
5. Not looking forward to centerlocks or 20" track tires/wheels.
6. 40K is a bit hit over a GT4, and closer to a GT3. But it's really only a 30K hit since LWB and PDK are included, 27K if the rumored 3% GT4 price increase is true. 27K for the content over a GT4 is a freaking steal in my opinion.
Summary: They put the GT3 engine and close ratio PDK transmission in an already fantastic car. TAKE. MY. MONEY.
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11-17-2021, 03:39 PM
#4072
Racer
11-17-2021, 03:44 PM
#4073
RL Community Team
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40K is a bit hit over a GT4, and closer to a GT3. But it's really only a 30K hit since LWB and PDK are included, 27K if the rumored 3% GT4 price increase is true. 27K for the content over a GT4 is a freaking steal in my opinion.
Summary: They put the GT3 engine and close ratio PDK transmission in an already fantastic car. TAKE. MY. MONEY.
Agree, lots of value included here.
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11-17-2021, 03:46 PM
#4074
You will be able to buy a C8 Z06 with a Z07 package that will have the CF wheels, Cup2R tires, and everything else you see in any car showings/lap time record attempts/etc. What you see is what you can get. None of this "you have to wait 13 months to get magnesium wheels" and "Cup2R" tires are 2+ years out (it did take 2 years for people to be able to buy them in the US after the 2017 GT3RS nurburgring lap time).
There is probably a reason why Cup2Rs cant be sold with the car from the factory in Stuttgart. Its probably a similar reason why new GT3s now have "track brake pads" that you must purchase because "street pads" fall apart in the track. Its a bit dishonest.
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11-17-2021, 03:48 PM
#4075
Drifting
Technically yes. Z06 can then put R888R on their as a ringer tire and gain an extra 5-6 seconds over Cup2R. When you look at Corvette times, cars are in a config that you and I can purchase. Look at the GT4rs Ring video, it has Cup2R tires (cant be ordered with the car), it has radio and A/C delete (cant be done in US), it has no passenger seat and lighter driver racing seat. I simply cant buy their car here. You can buy the Z06 or ZR1 as chevy used in their VIR or other official record break attempt videos.
Probably not. But it is certainly unethical marketing for Porsche to represent their recent GT4RS Nuremberg lap time as if it were a production street car if it was not. And I think we can all agree that tires in particular play an outsized factor in the overall performance of any vehicle - Tire choice can dramatically improve braking, acceleration, and cornering simultaneously.
Using a racing bucket seat with a halo is also a non-issue for me because that's a safety thing, especially for a racing driver setting an all-out lap time. If I were a driver I would absolutely refuse to do my job with an OEM seat in the name of safety.
Radio and AC delete? Maybe that one holds more water. But just take the radio out when you get the car.
11-17-2021, 03:50 PM
#4076
11-17-2021, 03:51 PM
#4077
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Probably not. But it is certainly unethical marketing for Porsche to represent their recent GT4RS Nuremberg lap time as if it were a production street car if it was not. And I think we can all agree that tires in particular play an outsized factor in the overall performance of any vehicle - Tire choice can dramatically improve braking, acceleration, and cornering simultaneously.
11-17-2021, 03:53 PM
#4078
Rennlist Member
Yes, thats misleading. To this date, Cup2Rs cannot be configured in any GT car. You will have to pay $4,000+ and buy them from the parts department of your dealership. Its no different than going to tire rack and buying your favorite type of slick tire. While you are there, you may as well put some 200 cell sport cats, change the exhaust, and modify the car even more. Maybe add some RSC1 pads? See where I am going with this? Mods are mods.
You will be able to buy a C8 Z06 with a Z07 package that will have the CF wheels, Cup2R tires, and everything else you see in any car showings/lap time record attempts/etc. What you see is what you can get. None of this "you have to wait 13 months to get magnesium wheels" and "Cup2R" tires are 2+ years out (it did take 2 years for people to be able to buy them in the US after the 2017 GT3RS nurburgring lap time).
There is probably a reason why Cup2Rs cant be sold with the car from the factory in Stuttgart. Its probably a similar reason why new GT3s now have "track brake pads" that you must purchase because "street pads" fall apart in the track. Its a bit dishonest.
You will be able to buy a C8 Z06 with a Z07 package that will have the CF wheels, Cup2R tires, and everything else you see in any car showings/lap time record attempts/etc. What you see is what you can get. None of this "you have to wait 13 months to get magnesium wheels" and "Cup2R" tires are 2+ years out (it did take 2 years for people to be able to buy them in the US after the 2017 GT3RS nurburgring lap time).
There is probably a reason why Cup2Rs cant be sold with the car from the factory in Stuttgart. Its probably a similar reason why new GT3s now have "track brake pads" that you must purchase because "street pads" fall apart in the track. Its a bit dishonest.
The "configurator" is not always up to date, nor working correctly, but aside from that, given that I "still" haven't been able to get PS4S since April, may be the other reason its not readily up for order.
11-17-2021, 03:53 PM
#4079
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I'm interested also. Either it will have the same manual gearbox as the GT4 (where the torque curve will have to be further compromised to meet the 310 ft-lbs limit of the gearbox) or they will have to strengthen the box (or take the financial risk of exceeding its limits). Or they will have to use a new manual box (seems unlikely for a small number of cars).
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11-17-2021, 03:55 PM
#4080
Drifting