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Old 10-21-2021, 12:13 AM
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I am assuming the 4rs doesn’t have the 992 GT3 front double wishbone and rear wheel steering. But it has extra quarter window ram air scoop (+15hp?) that might increase rear world power. The midship finally proof it’s true potential~
Old 10-21-2021, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by JSF101
truly a shame it's not being built for the enthusiasts, how many will get driven as Porsche intended?
What does this mean? Porsche builds cars for a select few who will never drive them? I am sure that is not their intent.

And why is there an implied assumption that people who will own this car are not enthusiasts, ridiculous!


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Old 10-21-2021, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by JSF101
couldn't agree more
180 posts today and I lost count how many different people posted that same video (5, 6, 7 ??)

lots of enthusiasm, dare I say over the top

truly a shame it's not being built for the enthusiasts, how many will get driven as Porsche intended?

Yep, they will be in the hands of the flippers. I wish Porsche would take a stand against that , kinda like Ferrari does.
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Old 10-21-2021, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by AlexCeres
maybe ? If it’s a limited edition priced at gt3 levels, and it’ll get destroyed by the 992 RS … why care ? Sell a bunch of cars, and then sell some more.
It's not just about numbers only, it's about how car feels to drive and how it makes you feel. The GT4RS may be slower than the GT3 but it feels different with unique mid-engine dynamics. And it feels more compact around the driver.

So no one who is looking for that feeling is going to worry if the 992 GT3 is 6 seconds faster on Nordschleife or 10. And certainly isn't going to care if GT4RS can't keep up with the Next GT3RS or the previous one either. If they do they shouldn't buy it and move on to something else.

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Old 10-21-2021, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris3963
I found his commentary interesting - the video comparison ot the 4 cars, his observations regarding the fender vents, the potential brake issues, the constant lift off mid-corner to help rotation, etc….were all insights that very few people would have picked up IMHO. As for his credentials, he lives at the ring, he instructs at the ring, he races in VLN at the ring, and does over 1,000 laps a year. He knows the track so well that he even published a video where he instructed blindfolded. Very few people know the ring as well. Plus he is genuinely an all around nice guy having met him at the ring at Apex
+1 Misha has clout, I very much agree with his opinions especially with Lars behind the wheel and solving the "brake issue" will produce an even better ring time.

If that slit on the front fenders from the spotted shot from LA is the final product, that'd be one fugly line. The current duct tape don't appear to be covering aggressive vents found on the 2RS/3RS.
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Old 10-21-2021, 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris3963
I found his commentary interesting - the video comparison ot the 4 cars, his observations regarding the fender vents, the potential brake issues, the constant lift off mid-corner to help rotation, etc….were all insights that very few people would have picked up IMHO. As for his credentials, he lives at the ring, he instructs at the ring, he races in VLN at the ring, and does over 1,000 laps a year. He knows the track so well that he even published a video where he instructed blindfolded. Very few people know the ring as well. Plus he is genuinely an all around nice guy having met him at the ring at Apex
Just a shame he has such poor presentation skills, or feels the need to turn two minutes of content into ten.
Old 10-21-2021, 01:02 AM
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Misha did an awesome job presenting a number of factors, did a comparison with a number of other GT cars and I now think Porsche sandbagged the GT4 RS time... can't wait for independent confirmation on production samples
Old 10-21-2021, 01:28 AM
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And let's keep in mind that this was not necessarily a legitimate time if the production car appears with front fender vents and a different intake vent in the rear quarter window. Besides, I find it odd that Porsche released a lap before the car was released. That's not normally the way they do it. I suspect there will be another run sometime next year when the ring reopens after winter.
Old 10-21-2021, 02:05 AM
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Just went to Porsche HK to discuss and they seem to have an idea of the pricing. Its slightly more than the base 911 (which over here costs more than the GT4 at 1.6Million) at around 2.3Million. Rear suspension... forget it. I'll rather get the old GT3 when i've had enough of the GT4.
Old 10-21-2021, 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by odie_33
Just went to Porsche HK to discuss and they seem to have an idea of the pricing. Its slightly more than the base 911 (which over here costs more than the GT4 at 1.6Million) at around 2.3Million. Rear suspension... forget it. I'll rather get the old GT3 when i've had enough of the GT4.
Heard pretty much the same thing~
Old 10-21-2021, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Adrift
The extra 12+ months until spyder rs announce could be used to make special sauce, no? We can dream. And it just makes sense, thematically.
It would be such an epic car with a manual. I am dreaming and sending positive thoughts.
Old 10-21-2021, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
Just a shame he has such poor presentation skills, or feels the need to turn two minutes of content into ten.
It's not his job to provide us with content, or first hand reporting. Content length is also required to generate revenue on that platform.

Seems reasonable to me and par for the course
Old 10-21-2021, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Chokingfai
I am assuming the 4rs doesn’t have the 992 GT3 front double wishbone and rear wheel steering. But it has extra quarter window ram air scoop (+15hp?) that might increase rear world power. The midship finally proof it’s true potential~

Doesn’t the GT3’s motor get an extra +20 hp as it runs through the air at high speeds?

I thought Andreas had said that at the release of the car.
Old 10-21-2021, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Jet Jockey
Doesn’t the GT3’s motor get an extra +20 hp as it runs through the air at high speeds?

I thought Andreas had said that at the release of the car.
I think I remember something like 10-15hp at Vmax (basically 200mph). Fairly irrelevant in the US.
Old 10-21-2021, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
Just a shame he has such poor presentation skills, or feels the need to turn two minutes of content into ten.
Yeah - don't really need to see him eat pancakes with Pancake for 5 min...lol

But, it is the YouTube algo that he is feeding into to hit that magic 8-12 min video...


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