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Old 05-11-2017, 04:08 PM
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Looks like there is final approval
Old 05-11-2017, 05:58 PM
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May 11, 2017
On May 11, the final approval hearing for the proposed 3.0L V6 TDI settlement reached by Volkswagen Group in the United States was held before U.S. District Judge Charles Breyer. This settlement applies to the U.S. market only. The court will release its decision approving the settlement no later than May 18, 2017.

In Canada, consumer class proceedings are underway regarding affected 3.0L V6 TDI vehicles. Updates will be provided as they become available.

https://www.vwemissionsinfo.ca/news/...di-settlement/
Old 05-12-2017, 10:01 AM
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My dealer service advisor told me they have a conference call on May 15th regarding the 3 liter settlement.

UPDATE 5/16/17: my service advisor said the call was only about implementing the fix, nothing about customers.

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Old 05-12-2017, 02:05 PM
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I believe it was Japolink who reported today (based on yesterday's hearing) there is a 3.0L emissions fix which is now completed and either has been or soon will be submitted to EPA/Carb for approval.

I'll be looking for the court transcript as I'd like to know if that was mentioned or discussed yesterday and if so what was said. Sounds like judge's written approval should be out rather soon too, may be less than the week timetable.
Old 05-12-2017, 04:52 PM
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http://autoweek.com/article/vw-diese...el-settlements
Old 05-12-2017, 05:35 PM
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Buncha self congratulating hypocrites! After putting a quarter million perfectly useful vehicles in lots to rot, leak and be replaced with brand new vehicles, they have the audacity to say, "But scrapping another 80,000 cars was not going to be in the best interest of the environment." Unbelievable! And to go on and say that these 80,000 vehicles could each burn more gas per mile, with associated emissions is perfectly OK? Yep, they're so concerned with the environment here.

And one of the objectors had a great point that was totally ignored by everyone involved. The EPA and CARB fell asleep at the wheel here in their monitoring and enforcement duties, yet are being hugely rewarded by all the money being allocated to them in the process. The money should go to someone else to use, since both of those agencies are being rewarded for failing at their responsibilities. In fact, it was university researchers that found the issue and brought it to the agenices' attention, not the agencies actually doing their jobs.

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Did anyone notice that today, May 12, is the final day for VW to submit the emissions compliant repair plan for the 2.1 vehicles? I am sure it has already been done and EPA/CARB are just waiting for the judge to approve the settlement before they approve the repairs

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Old 05-13-2017, 02:34 AM
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Default Mark this post. 3.0 2.1 will never be compliant.

Will require 1.5 gallons of AdBlue every 1100 mi.
Old 05-13-2017, 09:01 AM
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Will require 1.5 gallons of AdBlue every 1100 mi.
Filling up the reservoir under the spare tire is a pain. Wish the fill was in the fuel fill compartment. I owned a F250 Super Duty Diesel where both the DEF and diesel fuel where in the same spot.
Old 05-13-2017, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Winefan$
Will require 1.5 gallons of AdBlue every 1100 mi.
Where did that info come from? How big is the DEF tank?
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"The later Gen 2 models are all expected to be brought into compliance -- a buyback option will not be offered -- though owners of Gen 2 vehicles will also receive compensation ranging from $7,039 to $16,114. As for technical fixes themselves, they will be implemented at a later date when VW actually receives the green light from the EPA."

What determines the difference in value?
Old 05-13-2017, 04:27 PM
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Where did that info come from? How big is the DEF tank?
AdBlue information
In vehicles with selective catalytic reduction (SCR), a special urea solution (AdBlue) is injected into the exhaust system ahead of the catalytic converter in order to reduce nitrogen oxide emissions.

AdBlue is stored in a separate tank of the vehicle and should be refilled under normal driving conditions during service according to the maintenance schedule. The AdBlue tank holds approx. 5.02 gallons (19 liters).
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Bella1,
I saw this trick at the dealer for refilling the DEF tank without removing the spare tire: loosen the tie down for the spare and turn the spare tire so the DEF fill hole is between the wheel spokes. After removing the DEF cap use a long funnel to pour in the DEF. Using a flashlight look in the funnel to see how full the DEF tank is.
Not as good as the Audi/VW setup but close.

Rob


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Old 05-13-2017, 05:23 PM
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It's been said several times - value is based on market values pre-diesel gate (IIRC sept 2015). The compensation range is so large bc it encompasses all vehicles that had the 3.0 - VW Touareg, Audi's and the Cayenne I'd say most Cayennes would fall closer to the high end as they were more expensive than the others. And remember leasees basically get 1/2 the compensation of owners.

Originally Posted by pdxjim
"The later Gen 2 models are all expected to be brought into compliance -- a buyback option will not be offered -- though owners of Gen 2 vehicles will also receive compensation ranging from $7,039 to $16,114. As for technical fixes themselves, they will be implemented at a later date when VW actually receives the green light from the EPA."

What determines the difference in value?
Old 05-14-2017, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by r553
Bella1,
I saw this trick at the dealer for refilling the DEF tank without removing the spare tire: loosen the tie down for the spare and turn the spare tire so the DEF fill hole is between the wheel spokes. After removing the DEF cap use a long funnel to pour in the DEF. Using a flashlight look in the funnel to see how full the DEF tank is.
Not as good as the Audi/VW setup but close.

Rob

I do this to keep adblue in a sealed container from contaimination and ammonia crud from spills. You can never overfill doing it my way. Hate the way dealers cheat do it and charge you to clean tanks in a few years.

https://mbworld.org/forums/gl-class-...art-adblu.html


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