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12-18-2014, 05:54 AM
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New business op? Bunch of spares? Fancy bird houses?
http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/4783591789.html
http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/4783591789.html
12-18-2014, 06:16 AM
New business op? Bunch of spares? Fancy bird houses?
http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/4783591789.html
http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/4783591789.html
12-18-2014, 05:07 PM
Ahh, yes. A much researched area of vehicles by myself.
My 2 c worth would be to go Q5, Tiguan, or New shape Touareg, as new as possible. 30k will only see a Tiguan selected from that lot.
The right SUV will hold out better than most equivalent sedans. If I had bought an X5 3.0 diesel for similar money and year and Km's as my 530 MS several years ago the x5 would be worth double the 5 series now because they are so popular. A petrol X5, forget it.
Now the same can't be said for all SUV's and I believe that Cayenne's don't fit in that category of older desirable SUV's (my opinion, due to expense and the researchable horrors, and reflected in the cheaper asking prices). Towing; if I unload my 5 series in favour of the Golf then I have lost my tow vehicle, but the Tiguan actually has a 2.2 tonne capacity (0.2 more than the BMW) which is surprising for a smaller SUV so I will use that for the once a year haul up from Tauranga and the short flat trips to the ramp. It will not look right with a 6m 1.8T rig behind it but on paper it is more capable that the 5 series. A Q5 will always be a darling SUV so will hold up well and I assume would have a 2.2T capacity as well, more than enough for a Honda and trailer. A rangie or a Landie? Leave that one to you and your chequebook.
My experience with Euro's is get them newish and leave them to someone else to sort the inevitable wear and tear issues approaching 100k's. And then suck up the depreciation as part of the game. Phil nailed it a while back trumpeting Hyundai's but you, like me, are probably not ready to go there yet!
My 2 c worth would be to go Q5, Tiguan, or New shape Touareg, as new as possible. 30k will only see a Tiguan selected from that lot.
The right SUV will hold out better than most equivalent sedans. If I had bought an X5 3.0 diesel for similar money and year and Km's as my 530 MS several years ago the x5 would be worth double the 5 series now because they are so popular. A petrol X5, forget it.
Now the same can't be said for all SUV's and I believe that Cayenne's don't fit in that category of older desirable SUV's (my opinion, due to expense and the researchable horrors, and reflected in the cheaper asking prices). Towing; if I unload my 5 series in favour of the Golf then I have lost my tow vehicle, but the Tiguan actually has a 2.2 tonne capacity (0.2 more than the BMW) which is surprising for a smaller SUV so I will use that for the once a year haul up from Tauranga and the short flat trips to the ramp. It will not look right with a 6m 1.8T rig behind it but on paper it is more capable that the 5 series. A Q5 will always be a darling SUV so will hold up well and I assume would have a 2.2T capacity as well, more than enough for a Honda and trailer. A rangie or a Landie? Leave that one to you and your chequebook.
My experience with Euro's is get them newish and leave them to someone else to sort the inevitable wear and tear issues approaching 100k's. And then suck up the depreciation as part of the game. Phil nailed it a while back trumpeting Hyundai's but you, like me, are probably not ready to go there yet!
Its the tight **** in me...
12-18-2014, 05:21 PM
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Something to be said for this. Low hassle, no headache, low cost ownership. After playing with machinery in the toughest of environments here I have new found respect for Asian machinery. If you want a capable luxury 4x4 that can tow then Land Cruiser VX is very good. Land Cruiser 70 for the farm or tradie. Nissan Patrol ok too. The Korean product is getting so good now that for the price it cant be beaten. Days of old Lantra & Sportage are gone, new cars are close to European style and spec for half the dollars and seem for the most part durable too. Europe is a nice luxury, but with older gear pay through expensive maintenance and newer gear through depreciation. Too complex for The Rock with no back up parts. Still Toyota country here though the new T6 Ford Ranger has made huge inroads and is a better vehicle in every regard being ground up design from Australia. Toyota playing catch up whilst Nissan & Mitsi gone soft ute more suited for Bangkok than bang bang.
12-18-2014, 07:00 PM
Drifting
I should be there too Phil, sensible for sure. Look at the Honda's still boxing on after a quarter of a million k's.
12-18-2014, 07:04 PM
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Jap crap = too much plastic interior.
I have worked too hard to not have heated, leather seats in my daily drivers.............
I'd rather have a used high spec used Euro than a plastic smelling new Toyota.
The trick with Euro's is to buy a mechanical warranty and move on after about 120km's as things start to wear out............I made the mistake of trying to run my first one to 200km's and PAID for it........
I have worked too hard to not have heated, leather seats in my daily drivers.............
I'd rather have a used high spec used Euro than a plastic smelling new Toyota.
The trick with Euro's is to buy a mechanical warranty and move on after about 120km's as things start to wear out............I made the mistake of trying to run my first one to 200km's and PAID for it........
12-18-2014, 07:24 PM
Something to be said for this. Low hassle, no headache, low cost ownership. After playing with machinery in the toughest of environments here I have new found respect for Asian machinery. If you want a capable luxury 4x4 that can tow then Land Cruiser VX is very good. Land Cruiser 70 for the farm or tradie. Nissan Patrol ok too. The Korean product is getting so good now that for the price it cant be beaten. Days of old Lantra & Sportage are gone, new cars are close to European style and spec for half the dollars and seem for the most part durable too. Europe is a nice luxury, but with older gear pay through expensive maintenance and newer gear through depreciation. Too complex for The Rock with no back up parts. Still Toyota country here though the new T6 Ford Ranger has made huge inroads and is a better vehicle in every regard being ground up design from Australia. Toyota playing catch up whilst Nissan & Mitsi gone soft ute more suited for Bangkok than bang bang.
If you can look past the glacial acceleration, the Landcruiser is fantastically suited for towing but I personally just couldn't daily drive a barge with such dull handling. Patrols have a great name as real 4WDs (or did last time I looked) and I test drove an aftermarket turboed petrol one in an effort to find a faster Landcruiser but it was a dog with super peaky delivery and a shot, wallowy suspension that reminded me of a GL Merc's.
I was looking to tick a lot of boxes (a well handling and sub 8 sec quick AWD wagon with enough work carpark cred as a back up car for me, removable 3rd row as a back up car for my wife, moderate tow capability, and decent cost of ownership) so the older height adjustable Audi allroad took it out. If doing much serious towing then even the manual diesel allroad is still too light for you though and you're probably looking for something newer anyway. Be interested to see what you settle on John, after some test drives.
For pure entertainment's sake for us Rennlisters, my JohnM tow wagon vote goes to the Lambo LM002 that came up at Turners some time back.
12-18-2014, 07:57 PM
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12-18-2014, 08:29 PM
A 996 owner fussy about interiors?
This might be more suitable for John's race team: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/truc...-817597669.htm
This might be more suitable for John's race team: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/truc...-817597669.htm
Apparently some 996s do have large expanses of bare plastic but mine is all leathered up, right through to the air con louvres so the only things that took some getting used to after the 928 were the much lighter doors and switchgear. The Turbo was among the fastest production cars of its time so I just figured those were just the price you pay for keeping the weight down (and then bringing it back up a bit again with optioned leather).
Granted, a Hyundai would look odd with a Zonda interior but it wouldn't hurt for them to give it a bit of a bump.
12-18-2014, 09:07 PM
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Damn it Matt, you know the rules! John will be splitting that 79K seven ways already... Apparently some 996s do have large expanses of bare plastic but mine is all leathered up, right through to the air con louvres so the only things that took some getting used to after the 928 were the much lighter doors and switchgear. The Turbo was among the fastest production cars of its time so I just figured those were just the price you pay for keeping the weight down (and then bringing it back up a bit again with optioned leather). Granted, a Hyundai would look odd with a Zonda interior but it wouldn't hurt for them to give it a bit of a bump.
12-18-2014, 09:12 PM
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In any case, the number of cars has to reduce one more before I look at a purchase so a bit of time to sort it out.
12-18-2014, 09:20 PM
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Jason, I saw Mr Blue at CCS today with a KW box on the back seat. When do you get to run that bad boy?
12-18-2014, 09:52 PM
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love it!Despite the badge, the Santa Fe's do get an amazing review when it comes to an SUV that is not too big, and can tow.
The other one to look at is the new Ford Kuga. Not out of place in Kohi or Kawhia. Not too big and drives well. Nothing like a multi-million dollar ford global budget to help produce something well. Titanium model is full leather.