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11-30-2014, 01:26 AM
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Hey Neil. Buy me a ticket with the same numbers. Ill buy it back for 200K and we can actually self fulfil the prophesy! :-)
11-30-2014, 01:27 AM
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Like the orange - So right on Dave's hotrod but I'm not a fan on the 987 at all.
We'll see.. I'l probably be the one driving the Ford Focus diesel on the 2016 tour.
11-30-2014, 01:39 AM
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in M235i today. Spec, 8sp auto with paddles and also stick override, drive, sport and sport plus programs, 18" wheels and Michelin supersport, Drove a varied loop with a bit of everything. North up SH1 - quiet cruise, nice audio, plenty of turbo torque up the hill, no lag, fast shifting, in fact impressive engine makes the car feel fast with very good response.
then onto some bumpy and windy targa stage road that is tight and relatively slow but lots of acceleraton and brakes. suspension in sport to allow some compliance for bumps. plenty of acceleration and with 8sp lots of gear changing from 2, 3, 4 up and down. suspension controls the body well although there is a feeling of weight - not sure how much the car weighs but it feels more than I would have thought. Having said that there is plenty of power and the sport mode handled the bumps fine, no secondary bouncing but a little bit of traction control cutting in. Sport plus would have fixed that as the program is backed off but shocks then too stiff - ability to separate these 2 functions would be an advantage. Handling balance good with no noticeable balance bias at enthusiastic road pace.
Steering is light - probably too light and not much feel but this is a problem of most new cars now.
cabin quality average for this price and class of car.
Overall I liked the car, not a lot of space in the back seats but a good DD with plenty of pace M2 should be good and worth a look - haven't driven the M3/4 so can't compare that.
then onto some bumpy and windy targa stage road that is tight and relatively slow but lots of acceleraton and brakes. suspension in sport to allow some compliance for bumps. plenty of acceleration and with 8sp lots of gear changing from 2, 3, 4 up and down. suspension controls the body well although there is a feeling of weight - not sure how much the car weighs but it feels more than I would have thought. Having said that there is plenty of power and the sport mode handled the bumps fine, no secondary bouncing but a little bit of traction control cutting in. Sport plus would have fixed that as the program is backed off but shocks then too stiff - ability to separate these 2 functions would be an advantage. Handling balance good with no noticeable balance bias at enthusiastic road pace.
Steering is light - probably too light and not much feel but this is a problem of most new cars now.
cabin quality average for this price and class of car.
Overall I liked the car, not a lot of space in the back seats but a good DD with plenty of pace M2 should be good and worth a look - haven't driven the M3/4 so can't compare that.
What is the NZ retail for a M235i?
11-30-2014, 01:43 AM
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11-30-2014, 02:10 AM
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11-30-2014, 02:18 AM
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I had always thought after the 993 I'd move to a 996 GT3 and I've said that earlier on here. But then after finally paying it off and losing my appetite for debt I thought why borrow more to get into a GT3 when the 993 delivers such a great experience and they look so good. I still get compliments whenever I take it out and it still puts a smile on my face.
However I must admit with the reasonably nice 996TT just listed and the 996 GT3 on TM I have pondered the what if... with the aircooled cars in demand the delta between the the 993 and the two mentioned earlier becomes a lot less....
Heck with Macca's stone chipped, track hack on there for $150K I could almost sell mine and afford a 996 GT2
However I must admit with the reasonably nice 996TT just listed and the 996 GT3 on TM I have pondered the what if... with the aircooled cars in demand the delta between the the 993 and the two mentioned earlier becomes a lot less....
Heck with Macca's stone chipped, track hack on there for $150K I could almost sell mine and afford a 996 GT2
11-30-2014, 02:25 AM
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Oh heck. What have I started. Just received an email from a gentleman who read all about my car in CC magazine and is very keen to take a look at it this week! Mmmm. Bit difficult when Im not in the country. Car is on Z221s with very aggressive geo. Maybe I should do what someone else on there did a few weeks back and ask for a refundable 50K deposit first before you can get within 10m of said car LOL!
11-30-2014, 02:27 AM
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I had always thought after the 993 I'd move to a 996 GT3 and I've said that earlier on here. But then after finally paying it off and losing my appetite for debt I thought why borrow more to get into a GT3 when the 993 delivers such a great experience and they look so good. I still get compliments whenever I take it out and it still puts a smile on my face.
However I must admit with the reasonably nice 996TT just listed and the 996 GT3 on TM I have pondered the what if... with the aircooled cars in demand the delta between the the 993 and the two mentioned earlier becomes a lot less....
Heck with Macca's stone chipped, track hack on there for $150K I could almost sell mine and afford a 996 GT2
However I must admit with the reasonably nice 996TT just listed and the 996 GT3 on TM I have pondered the what if... with the aircooled cars in demand the delta between the the 993 and the two mentioned earlier becomes a lot less....
Heck with Macca's stone chipped, track hack on there for $150K I could almost sell mine and afford a 996 GT2
The 996 GT2 is more like you Jamie and frankly a stella investment. I need to add these to the 996 Gt3 and 3.3 Turbo as undervalued fuure appreciators. After of course 964 and 993 prices have ripped through the stratosphere and become the stella performers in the modern air cooled sector ;-)
11-30-2014, 02:35 AM
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Hey. In my add offered a front end respray as part of the deal!
The 996 GT2 is more like you Jamie and frankly a stella investment. I need to add these to the 996 Gt3 and 3.3 Turbo as undervalued fuure appreciators. After of course 964 and 993 prices have ripped through the stratosphere and become the stella performers in the modern air cooled sector ;-)
The 996 GT2 is more like you Jamie and frankly a stella investment. I need to add these to the 996 Gt3 and 3.3 Turbo as undervalued fuure appreciators. After of course 964 and 993 prices have ripped through the stratosphere and become the stella performers in the modern air cooled sector ;-)
You know my thoughts on future classics and I've always said with Porsche "history repeats itself". All you need to do is look at the last 30 years to give an indicator of whats becomes collectable and what doesn't. I always said the 4.0 would be a collector car and many disagreed and look at them now!
Same with the Sport Classic. The GT2 is an interesting beast as many are too scared to own one. Most I have known have never been drive "properly" and the cheapest one was about 12 or so months ago at around $90k from memory. I haven't seen any under $100k for a while.
And the end of the day I'd get much more enjoyment per $$ out of keeping the 993, my boat and a Pontiac Camaro or Firebird
.......... and a little later another Ducati or MV Augusta!
11-30-2014, 02:44 AM
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11-30-2014, 03:20 AM
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Hehe was just winding you up mate. I've shared your TM ad on all the boy racer forums so you should get some enquiries for test drives
You know my thoughts on future classics and I've always said with Porsche "history repeats itself". All you need to do is look at the last 30 years to give an indicator of whats becomes collectable and what doesn't. I always said the 4.0 would be a collector car and many disagreed and look at them now!
Same with the Sport Classic. The GT2 is an interesting beast as many are too scared to own one. Most I have known have never been drive "properly" and the cheapest one was about 12 or so months ago at around $90k from memory. I haven't seen any under $100k for a while.
And the end of the day I'd get much more enjoyment per $$ out of keeping the 993, my boat and a Pontiac Camaro or Firebird .......... and a little later another Ducati or MV Augusta!
You know my thoughts on future classics and I've always said with Porsche "history repeats itself". All you need to do is look at the last 30 years to give an indicator of whats becomes collectable and what doesn't. I always said the 4.0 would be a collector car and many disagreed and look at them now!
Same with the Sport Classic. The GT2 is an interesting beast as many are too scared to own one. Most I have known have never been drive "properly" and the cheapest one was about 12 or so months ago at around $90k from memory. I haven't seen any under $100k for a while.
And the end of the day I'd get much more enjoyment per $$ out of keeping the 993, my boat and a Pontiac Camaro or Firebird
.......... and a little later another Ducati or MV Augusta!I agree. Return for $$$ enjoyment your 993 plus some other toys probably wins. if you were more regular at the track these days the GT3 would be a shoe in. The 996 GT2 doesnt appeal to me personally but I expect it will keep rising in price.
I say we put these price discussions to bed. Ive proven my point. Anyone can list their car for insane money. Doesnt mean it will sell. Even if its a really nice one. Good way to accelerate our RL pages. over 1300 now wooohooo!
11-30-2014, 03:30 AM
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I've also seen work by Traditional Upholstery in Waimauku. I think they mostly do furniture but have done several hot rods that were very cool.
You'll probably need to call into several shops and see which one you 'gel' with before choosing 'the one'.