I have already commented on those things.

It seems clear that the trucking industry situation has "challenges and perhaps opportunities" with this topic, and it might be an important topic until truck drivers are replaced with robots/HW and SW. Folks all over the world are working on that including some in my area.

I don't know whether PCA/PCA CR has "dug deep" on what seems to me are clear challenges with what you have stated is their approach related to trucking. I note that there is no mention of trucking in either of the PCA comms you have posted.

Perhaps they need back away from weeds/rim of the can of worms, to thank you, cordially invite you to race, and fund the first round of drinks.

As for the fish... not sure.

 

I agree that PCA CR's approach to safety risk management is not well considered. But the fact remains that they want their medical committee to medically clear racers, and the medical committee has chosen to evaluate a driver's health situation in order to make their determination. With that being their process, it's not unreasonable for them to want to review CPAP data if a CPAP has been prescribed, even if the reasons they gave you for wanting the CPAP data seem nonsensical.

 

And you also walked on the moon, was president of France, and split the atom.

And all this in addition to all your professional experience you highlighted in your last 50 posts.

You are the shizzle my friend....

 

It can if you're using it while racing.

See you at The Rock in a couple days?

 

I mention truck driver standards in my whistleblower letter to PCA, but they never mention it in any of their replies because that would be inconvenient. There is no logic behind the standard for race car drivers.

 

peterp and Mahler--cage match, no holds barred, no weapons, no hair pulling or biting, good ol' fashion street fight fisticuffs, to the death.

Who's your money on?

 

New here and haven't read every post so I am lacking some context and have nothing of value to add other than I hope both parties have fun!

 

Hmmmm. No biting or hair-pulling? Then my vote is on Pete

 

The truck driver thing seems to the basis for a good chunk of the medical committee's standards. I was reading a 2022 issue of the club racing magazine* last weekend and they mentioned it in there. It's not just for OSA, it's basically for anything that DOT has set a standard on for truck drivers. I am not qualified to determine if driving a race car and driving a big rig with a box of krispy kremes next to me are similar enough for that to make sense but it seems to be the path they've chosen.

*(why am I reading old issues of the club racing magazine? I haven't been able to get on track since march and I'm freaking out so give me a break)

 

Come on man, you know you can't take a box of Krispy Kremes out on track with you.

 

Keep in mind that OSA has a range of physiological effects other than making someone sleepy and prone to falling asleep. It can affect attention, perception, memory, judgment, decision-making, motor control, etc. Since driving trucks and driving on the race track are both driving, it's not necessarily unreasonable to apply trucking standards to CR if there are no other more relevant standards available. PCA isn't making anyone less safe by verifying CPAP usage for those who prescribed to use a CPAP, and it's possible that they're increasing safety. They can argue that they're erring on the side of safety.

 

Keeping your car in the garage is what is safest. Anything else is a risk.

The line should be drawn in a reasonable place and PCA looks ridiculous for saying CPAP data has something to do with safety when there are so many other risks.

Ridiculous and it is mere hubris and spite that they don't review this policy.

 

Hubris, a word that you actually taught me here on RL. Nice.

 

then what good is an open face helmet?

 

You're a funny guy!