Thanks for the research, Gary. It's considerably past 50% of "VIR-Mustang" and still going strong! PCA National/CR must be so proud whenever they check the latest view number...

 

#winningthroughbloviation

 

I have to thank you Mahler as you are now the reason to keep hitting the treadmill, in order to increase my health further and lose another 10 - 15 pounds, so that I can get a finding of no OSA. That will end the debate since you have made all sorts of outlandish assumptions based on a pretty straight forward test and results.

The bottom line is these numbers don't matter because PCA's ridiculous policy rationale to require CPAP data is as follows:

1. PCA uses DOT truck driver standards for club racers.
2. The ad hoc medical committee's position is that a person with untreated OSA can fall asleep will driving a race car on track.
3. A person with untreated OSA can be tired and make bad decisions on track. While this is the only position that actually makes sense, it is not a reason to ask for data when there are a million other reasons why someone can be tired.
4. Untreated OSA can cause long term health problems. I did not realize that signing up for PCA CR also appoints them my health care proxy.

PCA has never backed off any of these positions, all of which are confirmed in writing, and is making the club look ridiculous. They won't even admit that the medical committee was never properly formed.

 

Free drinks when we reach 200k!

 

What is the opposite of ad hoc? We could refer to it at the alleged Medical Committee? The premeditated (medicated?) Medical Committee?

 

Ad hoc is a committee formed for a specific or limited purpose. It is a committee formed to do a job such as to change the bylaws. Once the new bylaws are enacted the committee would be dissolved.

There are 11 standing committees which were formed in PCA's bylaws. There are a further 13 "other committees" that are listed in the MNPP as being formed by the executive committee. These are permanent committees. The committees which were formed by the EC can be dissolved by the EC. The standing committees cannot be added to or dissolved without a change to the bylaws.

Although the medical committee has been around for at least ten years, and likely more, it is not mentioned in the MNPP which was approved in 2023.

The medical committee has the power to decide if a driver is allowed to race, the general counsel has convinced the president and CR chair that it is a liability to overrule them, but they don't care that this committee was not properly formed.

PCA leadership has no concern for the rules when the rules stand in the way of what they want.

 

I think the opposite of ad hoc is hoc tua

 

CPAP machine? Just spit on that thang.

 

 

Oh lord

 

That's a very lawyery way of looking at it. Regardless of its formal status, the medical committee performs a function, and everyone seems to understand and agree on what that function is. PCA can change the formal status of the committee if necessary. Hard to argue that the medical committee should not be the one making decisions on medical clearance, and that others who are not doctors should override them.

 

For Dr. Conchas….

 

I would completely disagree with this. There is a committee, inside the club, that was never officially formed, with no actual authority, making decisions for the members. Further, apparently this committee makes decisions for club racing and other parts of the club, none of it documented or known to the members. That sounds like government, not a car club (you do know the other motto of PCA, right?).

And I would point out that PCA has had problems with decisions and votes not being made inside of the by law requirements before, some of them quite significant.

 

What’s the other motto?

 

It's not the cars, it's the committee.