Panamera 4 E-hybrid Owners Thread
#2671
Racer
Does anyone know if the CTEK MXS 5.0 smart charger (also sold with Porsche logo at a modest mark up), is sufficient to maintain system voltage while changing the 12V AGM service battery? I would connect it to the jumper points in the engine compartment with the crocodile clips.
Wilson
Wilson
#2672
Racer
@Wilson Laidlaw The CTEK MXS 5 charger does not have a "Supply" mode so I don't think it will provide the 12v supply you will need once the battery is disconnected. The CTEK 7002 does have a Supply mode and can support the normal low drain of the car with the ignition and accessories off and battery disconnected although I haven't tried it. I am going purely from the specifications from the CTEK user manuals. If you have a local Ham radio operator nearby, they will have a 12v power supply they are likely to provide just out of the hobbyist "play with stuff orientation" of amateur radio.
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Wilson Laidlaw (04-04-2022)
#2673
Racer
@Wilson Laidlaw The CTEK MXS 5 charger does not have a "Supply" mode so I don't think it will provide the 12v supply you will need once the battery is disconnected. The CTEK 7002 does have a Supply mode and can support the normal low drain of the car with the ignition and accessories off and battery disconnected although I haven't tried it. I am going purely from the specifications from the CTEK user manuals. If you have a local Ham radio operator nearby, they will have a 12v power supply they are likely to provide just out of the hobbyist "play with stuff orientation" of amateur radio.
Wilson
#2674
Should I worry about stale gasoline on my Panamera ehybrid? I mostly drive very short distance and I only usually hit the gas station two or three times a year!! And would I need gasoline stabilizer if I have to store the car and not driving for an extensive period of time (2-3 months)?
#2675
Should I worry about stale gasoline on my Panamera ehybrid? I mostly drive very short distance and I only usually hit the gas station two or three times a year!! And would I need gasoline stabilizer if I have to store the car and not driving for an extensive period of time (2-3 months)?
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KW411 (04-06-2022)
#2676
I would try to find non-Ethanol gas next fill-up. Less oxidation than E10. E10 gas is really only good for 3 months. Non-ethanol is probably 2x that.
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KW411 (04-06-2022)
#2677
Pro
I would seriously consider only putting in a half tank at a time. I agree that ethanol gas (if that is what you are using) should not sit around in an expensive car for more than a couple of months.
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KW411 (04-06-2022)
#2678
Burning Brakes
Last edited by SS22; 04-06-2022 at 08:08 PM.
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KW411 (04-06-2022)
#2679
Racer
At least in the UK, premium gasoline is not yet E10 but just E5 but I suspect it will only be a matter of time. Older cars such as my 1977 911 RSR will not like E10 at all, if premium goes that way and our elderly Gasoline John Deere tractor does not even like E5. I buy ethanol free gasoline called Aspen 4 for that in 25L drums, from our local agricultural supplier. I will also use this on our 10 year old Honda mower and in our 20 year old Techumseh emergency generator. In my 911, as it will sit mostly unused while I am in France for the summer, I add Sta-Bil fuel preservative and in my three wheel Morgan that live in France, I add it for the winter for when it is in storage.
Wilson
Wilson
#2680
Rennlist Member
Transitional Braking / Battery Life growing?
I now have 3300 miles on the Panamera. Yesterday I ran the high voltage battery down enough that the engine self-started while I was showing a neighbor some features of the car. I charged it overnight, and the range reported this morning was 42mi. This is the highest range I have observed after a full charge. Typically, I have been seeing 32-35mi after charging. We are having slightly warmer weather here (50F), but I was still surprised that the range has increased by 30%.
Last edited by jbkanas; 04-19-2022 at 01:07 AM. Reason: Expansion of topic
#2681
Hi all,
I have a 2017 4 E hybrid, still thrilled with the car, Ive been thinking about getting it tuned recently though, maybe bringing it up to the same power as the 4S E hybrid. I've wondered how the engine remap would work with the electric hybrid drive though. Has anyone had this done? I've found a company in the UK (DMS automotive) who have a good reputation here, they say they can take the car to 620hp, and 820nm or torque which seems rather high. Is it the same PDK box as the Turbo Hybrid? Otherwise it looks like a tuning box like 'Racechip' which I'm not sure about
James
I have a 2017 4 E hybrid, still thrilled with the car, Ive been thinking about getting it tuned recently though, maybe bringing it up to the same power as the 4S E hybrid. I've wondered how the engine remap would work with the electric hybrid drive though. Has anyone had this done? I've found a company in the UK (DMS automotive) who have a good reputation here, they say they can take the car to 620hp, and 820nm or torque which seems rather high. Is it the same PDK box as the Turbo Hybrid? Otherwise it looks like a tuning box like 'Racechip' which I'm not sure about
James
#2682
Hi all,
I have a 2017 4 E hybrid, still thrilled with the car, Ive been thinking about getting it tuned recently though, maybe bringing it up to the same power as the 4S E hybrid. I've wondered how the engine remap would work with the electric hybrid drive though. Has anyone had this done? I've found a company in the UK (DMS automotive) who have a good reputation here, they say they can take the car to 620hp, and 820nm or torque which seems rather high. Is it the same PDK box as the Turbo Hybrid? Otherwise it looks like a tuning box like 'Racechip' which I'm not sure about
James
I have a 2017 4 E hybrid, still thrilled with the car, Ive been thinking about getting it tuned recently though, maybe bringing it up to the same power as the 4S E hybrid. I've wondered how the engine remap would work with the electric hybrid drive though. Has anyone had this done? I've found a company in the UK (DMS automotive) who have a good reputation here, they say they can take the car to 620hp, and 820nm or torque which seems rather high. Is it the same PDK box as the Turbo Hybrid? Otherwise it looks like a tuning box like 'Racechip' which I'm not sure about
James
i looked at both, ecu tune is the best ofcourse, but a lot of shop are charging 1500-2k, if you get the racechip, it work too but it won't be the best, it help with the increase of +100 hp, but ya it is a piggy back, with that, you need to get the DTE pedal box if you want to have the best to match up, which you will end up spending around 1000-1300, but even then you can pull it out and sell it when you are done with the car, if you sell the car with the ecu it goes with the car
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jamesbilluk (04-15-2022)
#2683
i looked at both, ecu tune is the best ofcourse, but a lot of shop are charging 1500-2k, if you get the racechip, it work too but it won't be the best, it help with the increase of +100 hp, but ya it is a piggy back, with that, you need to get the DTE pedal box if you want to have the best to match up, which you will end up spending around 1000-1300, but even then you can pull it out and sell it when you are done with the car, if you sell the car with the ecu it goes with the car
Thats a good point about being able to re sell the Race chip. I didn't think of the peddlebox though.
#2684
Racer
I have had very good experience with DMS in the past on my 996 and 997 Turbo S cars. I did over 60,000 miles on my 997 (wonderful car) and no problems at all with the engine other than corroding bolts on the turbo and exhaust manifolds. As a past customer they offered me a very good deal on my Panamera 4 E-Hybrid but with the now strict enforcement of speed limits with cameras in the UK and France plus heavy penalties for using a radar/laser detector and my age of over 75, I decided the Panamera was quick enough as it was. There is now zero leeway/overage allowance on speeds on many of the French speed cameras. I got done for 92kph in a 90kph zone on the Lyon bypass last year. The limit on normal French single carriageway roads is now just 80kph or 50MPH. Same on many roads in the UK. Only a matter of time until they bring back the man with the red flag.
Wilson
Wilson
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jamesbilluk (04-16-2022)
#2685
I have had very good experience with DMS in the past on my 996 and 997 Turbo S cars. I did over 60,000 miles on my 997 (wonderful car) and no problems at all with the engine other than corroding bolts on the turbo and exhaust manifolds. As a past customer they offered me a very good deal on my Panamera 4 E-Hybrid but with the now strict enforcement of speed limits with cameras in the UK and France plus heavy penalties for using a radar/laser detector and my age of over 75, I decided the Panamera was quick enough as it was. There is now zero leeway/overage allowance on speeds on many of the French speed cameras. I got done for 92kph in a 90kph zone on the Lyon bypass last year. The limit on normal French single carriageway roads is now just 80kph or 50MPH. Same on many roads in the UK. Only a matter of time until they bring back the man with the red flag.
Wilson
Wilson
Thats a very good point, it's getting to be similar here, I did wonder yesterday why I was thinking of doing it, as it is still a very quick car. I'm someone who can't seem to leave things alone.