ZedZed

As far as I know, Android Auto and Carplay require the use of wifi and Bluetooth together in order to work at all.

Westcoast

Any system can experience this problem if the GPS data stops getting to the phone, loose the GPS signal and the map updates stop.

ZedZed

S'right. Three things have to all be working for proper operation - it isn't somehow better with one manufacturer or another.

1, GPS data has to be available from the satellites. This is usually OK unless the receiver is in a tunnel, in a heavily wooded area etc, or Mr Putin is playing games.
2) An internet connection needs to be available for real-time updates, such as traffic, police alerts, weather etc.
3) Bluetooth and wifi need to be working properly (for Carplay and AA). BT is needed to establish the connection between the HU and the phone and wifi is needed to handle the datastream between the two.

Westcoast

^^^ in addition to the point above and referencing the bolded below...

There can be instances where the phone seems to stop the GPS data process, I have (as I mentioned) experienced this as well, where I had to grab the phone (when safely stopped ) and wake it up by unlocking it, normal operation resumes.

ssmith96

So does literally every single CarPlay system. That's how the CarPlay standard works, WiFi & BT....

If you're going to try to promote your product and infer another in inferior, I would try another way other than stating that your system does something that they literally all must do.

Roman ACS

I literally said we use the same connection but arbt having these issues. That's how it's different, at least in this aspect.

ZedZed

But the clear implication in your post was that because Mr 12v uses wifi and Bluetooth together, they don't have 'loss of signal' issues.

If Mr 12v has some form of superior wifi or Bluetooth implementation to the others, your putative claim would be entirely valid. So does it?

Roman ACS

All systems that use the phone to get a GPS signal are subject to GPS reception issues, such as being in a concrete parking garage. But your factory Navi will have the same issue.

Yes, I our hardware is not the same as other kits. So, no it will not perform the same. Being able to advertise lossless audio means you need to have a pretty damn good connection to your device to carry that amount data.

My claim is that I've removed about 15 isudar (and clone) kits in the shop and installed mr12volt. Not once the other way around. I also had isudar in my own vehicle so I have personal experience with the system for about 5 months.

People are much happier in all aspects. We don't have people complaining about the certain issues that isudar and their clones have/had.

I always advise people to try them out side by side. Then you will see and hear the difference very clearly.

ZedZed

Well, nobody was discussing audio (where lossless does need more bandwidth to handle the additional data in the stream), but since you bring it up... are you saying that the bandwidth capacity of wifi in Mr 12V is different/greater than in Isudar? Can you quantify the difference?

For data transmission that we were actually discussing (in relation to satellite navigation), having massive additional bandwidth (which may be needed for lossless audio) is of no great benefit. Unused bandwidth left 'on the table' is meaningless.

So how does the greater wifi bandwidth in Mr 12V benefit the bandwidth required for satnav?

Roman ACS

I have no hardware stats to provide as they don't give that out. I just speak from what I see first hand after handling more of these systems than probably anyone in the USA.

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ZedZed

So your statements about superior connectivity or bandwidth were just speculation?

Roman ACS

If my first hand experience and that of the sea of our users is speculation, sure. Your welcome to do your own side by side testing.
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ZedZed

So the evidence to back up your claim of superior hardware is just anecdotal? Fair enough. Perhaps a strong claim to make with no more than anecdotal support.

Roman ACS

Call it anecdotal or speculative. Whatever helps you sleep at night. Side by side its pretty clear.

ZedZed

'Side by side' (or 'based on personal observation') is what 'anecdotal' means. At least we agree that you have no substantive evidence for your claim that Mr 12V is inherently superior. As it is more expensive than Isudar, I'd hope it would be better! But making claims unsupported other than by anecdotal evidence is probably not the best way to put across Mr 12V's alleged advantages. If your product is superior, then tell people why and they will flock to it. Making dubious claims is more likely to put people off.

I have heard only good things about the Mr 12V solution and am disappointed that unsubstantiated claims need to be made in an undisguised sales pitch.