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As with every single change haters will hate.....and GM will sell as many as they can....my guess is close to 40K units the first full year once things get rolling.....
I think it looks terrific and it clearly has the potential to be a weapon - I watched the release video or rather skip watched it. There is no doubt the car is reasonably heavy and in line with the outgoing ZR1 ~ 3700lbs (as measured by Car and Driver). The three areas I would be looking at are (1) cooling (2) ability to maintain traction and optimise grip (3) tire wear and tear.
As a base model and at its price point it represents great bang for buck. Also, I did note what was not said in the release videos. I don't think the world has shifted because GM managed to build a production mid-engined car - after all there are quite a few to chose from at different price points. I think the bigger question for buyers is more about what does a specific buyer prioritise in his or her choice car. So nothing really has changed - having said that, I would definitely give one a go - although I have to say down under GM has got a poor rep (deservedly so to).
Not bad. Lambo sales going to tank. Looking forward to the Z versions:
Nice build... if this thing drives well and has no issues or design sins and a decent feel/personality, we'll be seeing a flood of these on the road... it's a potentially huge market disruptor...
Mid-engine v8 n/a sports car will be the new norm...
Suddenly world outlook is more hopeful and sunny!
I wonder if the 7/18 release date was GM trolling Porsche.
HAHAHA I just noticed that. Too funny.
Question: What is the source of the "sub 3s 0-60 time" I seem to recall being bandied about? I am looking but google-fu weak as usual. Anyone got a link to an instrumented test? I mean, "$60K" and "sub 3.0" is pretty damned impressive, no matter how goofy the interior looks.
Question: What is the source of the "sub 3s 0-60 time" I seem to recall being bandied about? I am looking but google-fu weak as usual. Anyone got a link to an instrumented test? I mean, "$60K" and "sub 3.0" is pretty damned impressive, no matter how goofy the interior looks.
It's just a GM claim at this point since nobody except them has driven the car. But with gearing and DCT it seems likely to be true. After 60 is probably much less impressive though.
The depreciation on current unsold new inventory says everything. You could obtain a C7 Z06 virtually new for probably $48k to 50k at the moment. Once the C8 floods the market, at a $60k price point, I could only imagine.
I don't pay attention to specs, since it will not have those specs when I am done with it anyway, nor will it probably have a warranty either. To someone who took apart a perfectly good 997S and (335k +) turned it into a 2312lb 650hp machine (with all nannies removed), it will be just another project. I have no idea whether the C8 will be a better machine (that the only way I see cars, just as machines that have a purpose), than a GT4, nor do I care. I took a gearshift 718 and made it into what I need it to be, which for my purpose is just as good as a GT4. I say this often on Ferrarichat, the 4C, and the Evora 400 (gearshift version) are better machines than a 360 or a 430 (I owned 3 360's, 2 430's gearshift and F1 on both), but no one on there will agree with me, because they find it hard to admit that they did not buy the better machine, they bought the better image maker and ego booster. I have owned 43 Porsches, have 4 now, and yes I think they are great machines, but since my decisions about cars are based without any emotion I see them differently than normal brained people do. My only question on the C8 is what color should mine be! I realize for most of you it is probably impossible to make a decision on a car without emotion, and in some ways I envy you, in others I think your emotion gets in the way of seeing the machine for how it performs its task.
I don’t think the C8 will have any impact on the 992. The biggest impact I see is on the used NSX, R8, and Maclaren market. If I were in the market for one of those, it would be hard to pass up a new with warranty equivalent mid engine that can be serviced at the local Chevy dealer.
Corvettes have always been a tremendous performance bang/buck but this C8 seems to take it to a whole new level. All other sports car manufacturers will be affected, including Porsche.
I realize for most of you it is probably impossible to make a decision on a car without emotion, and in some ways I envy you, in others I think your emotion gets in the way of seeing the machine for how it performs its task.
What’s this emotionless task that a sports car is supposed to perform?
This perfectly sums up the deplorable state of where we stand today when it comes to the simple desire of an average consumer to know how much a car weighs. Good luck getting a straight answer.
There now seems to be so many "weighs" to compute weight (e.g., curb, dry, with options, w/out options, according to Euro homologation standards, according to North American standards, etc., etc.) with those who should be in the know (i.e., the auto journos) seemingly clueless as to this fact.
This was exactly my complaint about actual weight (with, say, 10gal of gas in the tank) not being shown and updated on every online car configurator, right along with price. The number of “standards” and stipulations by which companies announce their models’ weights is a joke. Just too much dust in the air for this to be incidental. Looks like neither of them wants the public to know how much weight their cars gain with every new iteration.
07-20-2019, 05:54 AM
