odurandina

Well the C7's are just fantastic cars period. Have you seen what dealers have been willing to take in recent months to get the last C7's off their lots?? Oh, and they come already "loaded up" from the factory. The interiors are clean, attractive and functional. Jesus people. There's nothing on the planet that can touch it. Two Vettes in the driveway or 1 base model 911, with enough $$$ left over to take wifey to the Caribbean for 1/2 the winter. Umm, really people? i still don't get all the hate for the Vette, what it brings, and what it represents vs the price to obtain & maintain. It's an incredible bargain. And if some piece of plastic isn't to your liking, you can have it re-done in Carbon. Try ordering a few upgrades on your next 911. LOL.

Scott at Team Harco

What ever.

Jim M.

Your on a Porsche forum, which pretty much explains it.

odurandina

C4, C5 vs C7 vs C8..... night + night vs day/omg this is great vs ????
i wouldn't own a C4, or 5 either.

Scott at Team Harco

Big deal. I'm not comparing them. Unfortunately, I have not been given a chance to drive a C6 or C7. Have you?

odurandina

Yes. Of course. Both. The C6 is a great driving car w/ an awful interior.

alordofchaos

You sound a lot like Nicole, trying to tell everyone why they should buy a Tesla.

I can see the poll now . . .
[left]BTW - I heard Ross Perot died. Did you know that? Someone should start a thread.

Scott at Team Harco

Just test drive a Vette - you'll want to get one. Oh, and there are gas stations all over the place.

Must be a conspiracy...

odurandina

Now the C7; there's a lot on the road. What does this say? That's subject to interpretation.
i had the pleasure of having the base model for a week in Florida back in 2014. They're incredible. There's also a lot of 911's on the road. They're not that exclusive. They're great cars. i like 'em too. For the money they're incredibly fast, stylish, cool, and reliable. Please help me catch hell for liking both. i started the thread to talk about the new Vette. It's barely possible to be a "car guy" and hate the new Vette. But i'm sure a few folks will manage to do it anyway. That's why i left out the total horseshytte (it's crap) response from the poll. There's no way in hell this car's gonna be crap. It's going to have 458 performance not only at a fraction of the cost, but at a microscopic fraction of the maintenance. Can even Porsche match it? i'm sure you'll have no difficulty remembering the ims grenading cars, the pilot bearing failures on 928's, the 968 transmissions blowing up, and the 944 Turbo's going full turd after 30k miles. The Vette won't break from spirited driving, or require tuning every 3000 miles like comparable performing supercars. It might require some dry sump upgrade for track use. So do many other sports cars. For normal spirited and hard core road driving; i'd be surprised if it'll need any significant service--beyond fluids even after 40k miles. Probably won't require a tuneup until 80~120k. To say it is some kind of crap car, is as absurd as saying the Mueller Dossier is a valid legal complaint of Trump's election campaign colluding with Russia.

Scott at Team Harco

I didn't see anyone saying it was crap or that they hated it. There are obvious concerns about quality. GM is notorious for putting cost cutting over quality. It remains to be seen how maintenance and service intervals play out. There is reasonable history to support your beliefs.

What I see is a flawed poll. The sarcastic comments are a clue.

Is it now time for you to take your ball and go home?

hacker-pschorr

There's a crap ton of Camry's and F150's on the road too, what's your point?

I grew up in the Vette world, I still have way more friends with bow ties in the garage than Porsche badges, I have almost as much experience wrenching on Vette's as Porsche's, so you don't have to convince me of anything. But your constant bellyaching as to what people should or shouldn't appreciate or be into is.....tiring.

I think the difference between you and me is I actually appreciate all of them, I don't just cherry pick the latest and greatest model. When the C4 came out it was revolutionary. Sure it's easy to look back 40 years later and call it crap. It still is the only car in history that was so fast and dominating in the showroom stock class they were given their own SCCA racing series.

I've been debating on picking up a C4 convertible for a while now. About same money (or less) than a Boxster and a hell of a lot of fun to drive. But you're not going to see me berate people on here as to why they should also get one.

Hula

I call it the Harley-Davidson syndrome.

alordofchaos

When you get ready to buy your C4, be sure and post a poll asking if we: like the C4, think it's different but will buy one, or will just buy one. I 'm sure I will find those poll results very helpful. TIA

Hula

GM already announced it will be discontinued after 2023. But, Al Oppenheiser, the GM engineer who designed the last two generations, has moved over to the electric side of the house. The mid-2020's might see an all electric Camaro. Strange times.

alordofchaos

Thanks, did not realize they made the decision. I know Ford was stopping everything but SUV/crossover and the Mustang. Heard GM was doing the same but their muscle cars would also be spared for now.

I can see an electric Camaro - I imagine AWD. Good launches from stoplights, and range is probably less of an issue for their target demo.

It would only be missing the vroom-vroom sounds