Originally Posted by w2ge

I didn’t look at my dealers hourly rate, but 25 hours of labor to come up with $10,500 is $420 per hour. Ummm, really?😳🤬. I can’t find my quote papers at the moment and iirc it did not list labor hours, but I think from other threads Porsche TSB specifies 20 hours to do the job. Seems like it would take more, but I think that’s the rate. So the hourly tech rate is even higher? 🤦🏻‍♂️

Originally Posted by mwar99

Yeah, labor seems really high, parts too. Not sure what it was to get to 4,500 but in looking at the diagrams it didn't look like it should come close to that. And 10,500 in labor, even at $200 an hour is 52.5 hours which seems excessive (maybe the rate is slightly higher, but it won't make that much of a difference, even at $250 it's still over 40 hours). I can't see how, even with dropping the engine, a tech would be working on the car continuously for 6 1/2 days straight (assuming 8 hour days). I wonder what they budgeted for in the work and parts. I wish it were easier to trust the dealers to do the right thing.

Originally Posted by w2ge

I didn’t look at my dealers hourly rate, but 25 hours of labor to come up with $10,500 is $420 per hour. Ummm, really?😳🤬. I can’t find my quote papers at the moment and iirc it did not list labor hours, but I think from other threads Porsche TSB specifies 20 hours to do the job. Seems like it would take more, but I think that’s the rate. So the hourly tech rate is even higher? 🤦🏻‍♂️

Originally Posted by Faust T.

Parts are easy to figure out, there's a few list around so one can just look up the MSRP form the part number.

Number of hours... I had mine done under the warranty and reviewing the dashcam after I got the car back it was on the lift for 6 full days, and that's before the calibration and alignment,
so 40ish hours sounds right.

Originally Posted by rasetsu

So here's my theory on the labor cost. Because of how involved the project is and even though someone isn't working on it 24 hours for 6 days straight because that's just not possible, the car ties up a lift AND an engine stand which most dealers only have one or maybe two of if that so that delays or potentially loses revenue. So maybe there's some "labor" algorithm that is applied to the car taking up the space so the dealer can bill back to Porsche for. I suspect this is the case as that is how some dealers can magically lower the quote if you are out of warranty and push back. Again, I'm not saying I agree with this. Just throwing out an idea.

Originally Posted by mwar99

It was on the lift for 6 days, but were they working on it the whole time? I've seen cars on the lift at the dealership for half a day and no one touched it. You shouldn't be paying labor for it to just be there. Not that I drop engines all the time, but a full week of work just seems excessive.

Originally Posted by Faust T.

look, a lift is valuable for any shop so there's no reason to let a car to sit on it if it's not being work on, especially when it's done under warranty,
Porsche pays the dealer a fixed rate and hour so there's absolutely no reason for them to make it longer than it should.

You may not see them actually working on the car, but the tech can be working on the engine itself while the vehicle sits on the lift.

Originally Posted by missmy993

I recently bought a CPO '16 Macan S with 30K miles. A few weeks later I was learning about the new to me car and removed the lower engine cover to check out the oil filter location etc. When I did that I noticed oil on the lower radiator hose near the front passenger side tire. This did not seem right so I took it to the P car dealer near me (not the dealer I purchased it from) and they discovered an oil leak from the valve/timing cover. The dealer ordered the parts and repaired the car under warranty. I asked the service adviser how much the repair would have cost out of pocket, he said around $9000. The invoice lists 20 hours of labor and states "preformed val, pictures taken, removed engine and resealed timing cover".

I have no beef with the servicing dealer as they provided me with a brand new Macan (a good car but I missed the extra HP of the S). I do wonder about the selling dealer. As part of the CPO process the car had an oil change done and it seems to me that a technician would have noticed that leak (I noticed it). I suspect most owners do not ever look under the car so this could have gone unnoticed and would have been a huge issue if the car was out of warranty. The CPO status was not enough to protect me from this.

I have seen other posts about Macans leaking oil, hard to say if this will become a known issue or not. I also just saw a video about a Macan oil leak discovered by an indy shop with the narrator suggesting that people should have a good indy shop inspect your car as the dealer may overlook things like this.

I am posting this as a reference point, no replies needed.

Originally Posted by macan2021

2017 Macan S 46k miles, just barely out of warranty period (approximately 6 months). An oil change tech noticed engine leaking oil from above this week. this is after a 40k scheduled service at a porsche dealer last year with no flags.

Took it to a Porsche specialized independent mechanic and he diagnosed the problem as a timing cover leak. Quoted the cost to fix of ~$4,500. He said there are 2 solutions: (1) engine out fix and and (2) complete remove/disassemble the front of the car (bumper, radiator, maybe some a/c components) and he recommended #2 as the cheaper solution. Seemed like a knowledgeable guy. Said it would take 5-6 days to fix, but I unfortunately don't have time to get it fixed now as I'm on a road trip and we are leaving the area before that. Worth checking him out if you are in Miami - Roly's European Auto Center. Obviously can vouch his solution works fully, but seemed like a knowledgeable guy and has good reviews online.

Originally Posted by macan2021

2017 Macan S 46k miles, just barely out of warranty period (approximately 6 months). An oil change tech noticed engine leaking oil from above this week. this is after a 40k scheduled service at a porsche dealer last year with no flags.

Took it to a Porsche specialized independent mechanic and he diagnosed the problem as a timing cover leak. Quoted the cost to fix of ~$4,500. He said there are 2 solutions: (1) engine out fix and and (2) complete remove/disassemble the front of the car (bumper, radiator, maybe some a/c components) and he recommended #2 as the cheaper solution. Seemed like a knowledgeable guy. Said it would take 5-6 days to fix, but I unfortunately don't have time to get it fixed now as I'm on a road trip and we are leaving the area before that. Worth checking him out if you are in Miami - Roly's European Auto Center. Obviously can vouch his solution works fully, but seemed like a knowledgeable guy and has good reviews online.