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Old 03-15-2024, 01:46 PM
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Someone help understand this dual motor quote. Also, GT4 E Performance weighs under 1550kg proving that Porsche can do an EV coupe with 80kwh pack and make it under 3500 lbs.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...of-next-cayman

“If we only had a rear-wheel drive car, we would need about 250 kilograms more batteries to reach the same drive time,” he said of the GT4 e-Performance racer’s capability to run for between 25-30 minutes at full flog. “And that’s massive. So the decision to go for all-wheel drive, it’s very clear for a race car,” he explained, and it’s worth noting the GT4 e-Performance weighs “less than 1550kg”, which is circa 200kg more than the petrol 718 Cayman it’s based upon. “The advantage is to save weight, but also to save batteries – because batteries are expensive, you also save money. If you can reduce both of those by putting in an additional motor in the front which doubles the power of the car? It isn’t even an option,” he said.
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Originally Posted by MXA121
Someone help understand this dual motor quote. Also, GT4 E Performance weighs under 1550kg proving that Porsche can do an EV coupe with 80kwh pack and make it under 3500 lbs.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...of-next-cayman

“If we only had a rear-wheel drive car, we would need about 250 kilograms more batteries to reach the same drive time,” he said of the GT4 e-Performance racer’s capability to run for between 25-30 minutes at full flog. “And that’s massive. So the decision to go for all-wheel drive, it’s very clear for a race car,” he explained, and it’s worth noting the GT4 e-Performance weighs “less than 1550kg”, which is circa 200kg more than the petrol 718 Cayman it’s based upon. “The advantage is to save weight, but also to save batteries – because batteries are expensive, you also save money. If you can reduce both of those by putting in an additional motor in the front which doubles the power of the car? It isn’t even an option,” he said.
Yes, I can't make logical sense of this either. If you have two motors, then you have two consumers of energy. So how does reducing the battery capacity provide a benefit in terms of endurance? When the author says, "same drive time", is he describing total time to battery depletion or is he describing total lap time? Maybe two smaller motors versus one larger motor - I can't this concept to work in my pea brain.
Old 03-16-2024, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by slivel
Yes, I can't make logical sense of this either. If you have two motors, then you have two consumers of energy. So how does reducing the battery capacity provide a benefit in terms of endurance? When the author says, "same drive time", is he describing total time to battery depletion or is he describing total lap time? Maybe two smaller motors versus one larger motor - I can't this concept to work in my pea brain.
The front motor is much more efficient at energy recuperation when braking - hence the ability to achieve better energy use on track vs. single motor setups.
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Old 03-16-2024, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TXshaggy
Pretty sure that's just a technology demonstrator.

Two pieces of info that we now know. Internal chassis designation will be 983 and there will be a 718 EV GT and it'll come out of the GT division.

Good stuff.
good to know about 983.

very weird to consider that Porsche would make an electric car via the GT divison.
Old 03-18-2024, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Drifting
good to know about 983.

very weird to consider that Porsche would make an electric car via the GT divison.
I'm sure Andreas P is thrilled... I sense a retirement announcement soon.
Old 03-18-2024, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Drifting
good to know about 983.

very weird to consider that Porsche would make an electric car via the GT divison.
Well given the EU (and other markets, including US) Zero mandate only makes sense the GT Division gets on with it.

PAG was successful in getting an EU carveout for Carbon Neutral Fuels, so perhaps halo or racing endeavors have some sort of ICE plant.
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Originally Posted by Drifting
good to know about 983.

very weird to consider that Porsche would make an electric car via the GT divison.
I think it's MUCH weirder to make a Cayenne GT than a Taycan GT.
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Another article out of the AU tour....not much new info, but check out the gallery for a bunch of great GT-4 E photos.

https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/ele...new-gen-cayman

Unsure why the article main photo is of a RY Spyder RS -- but that looks sweet! I am a little biased though...
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Old 03-19-2024, 01:49 AM
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They’re getting a little loose with the GT moniker, but then again we have Turbo Taycans so whatever I guess LOL.
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Old 03-26-2024, 03:28 PM
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Some newish video of testing. I'm not loving the EV noises, but I guess I'll adjust... eventually. Can't wait to see what the GT department is able to do with these in the coming years..

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Old 03-26-2024, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by chriswd62
Some newish video of testing. I'm not loving the EV noises, but I guess I'll adjust... eventually. Can't wait to see what the GT department is able to do with these in the coming years..

https://youtu.be/yW67Sv1kIas?t=53

UGH! I just can't with this awful contraption 🤢🤮
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Originally Posted by chriswd62
Some newish video of testing. I'm not loving the EV noises
The only noise I hear is tires crunching salty roads. The only thing more nauseating will be if they pump fake exhaust noises externally and internally.
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The amount of despair in this thread is amusing.
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Old 03-27-2024, 07:47 PM
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The new video shows the first images of the center brake light without any camouflage. I am curious how it will look when lit up.


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Originally Posted by IndigoInkTaco
The only noise I hear is tires crunching salty roads. The only thing more nauseating will be if they pump fake exhaust noises externally and internally.
Then you should start stocking up on Dramamine® now.
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