The Giant EV General Discussion Thread
#901
No EV sports cars exist - because nobody has built one since Tesla's first Roadster. Everyone buys EVs for daily drivers, because only daily driver EVs exist. Porsche has the chance to be first in the sub $100k EV sports car space, and I'm sure they have done the math on profitability.
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#902
Talked to someone recently who I would say knows what goes on with PCNA. This car is going to flop hard. I'll leave it at that, but almost no general interest, lack of dealer enthusiasm. They seem to see the writing the wall but are too far down the road now.
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#903
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This is what happens when asinine government mandates supersede free markets. EV's are already dead on arrival aside from being a niche. Porsche can't even sell Taycans.
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#904
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a quick visual that shows what some of you look like RN.
#907
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Pretty sure it wasn't an "ask" by end-users, but rather mandates/legislation by governments to reach Zero emissions by a target date.
Same way we didn't ask for 4 cylinder cars, turbos on almost every 2-door sports car, Gas Particulate Filters, PCCB pad change, etc...all levied on us because of govt regulation.
Good on Porsche for giving it a go
Same way we didn't ask for 4 cylinder cars, turbos on almost every 2-door sports car, Gas Particulate Filters, PCCB pad change, etc...all levied on us because of govt regulation.
Good on Porsche for giving it a go
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#908
It also seems like one of the big issues facing an EV buyer is resale value. If the battery only lasts X years and you want to sell the car a couple years before that, no one wants to take on that $$$ burden of replacing the battery without a serious reduction in the price they pay for the car.
I'd think by now there would be a lower cost solution to battery replacements. Maybe/hopefully there will be.
With an ICE car, you can generally think that if you buy a 5 year old car, it's not going to need a new engine.
Maybe an attractive lease on an EV is the way to go. Use it,,,get rid of it.
I'd think by now there would be a lower cost solution to battery replacements. Maybe/hopefully there will be.
With an ICE car, you can generally think that if you buy a 5 year old car, it's not going to need a new engine.
Maybe an attractive lease on an EV is the way to go. Use it,,,get rid of it.
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It also seems like one of the big issues facing an EV buyer is resale value. If the battery only lasts X years and you want to sell the car a couple years before that, no one wants to take on that $$$ burden of replacing the battery without a serious reduction in the price they pay for the car.
I'd think by now there would be a lower cost solution to battery replacements. Maybe/hopefully there will be.
With an ICE car, you can generally think that if you buy a 5 year old car, it's not going to need a new engine.
Maybe an attractive lease on an EV is the way to go. Use it,,,get rid of it.
I'd think by now there would be a lower cost solution to battery replacements. Maybe/hopefully there will be.
With an ICE car, you can generally think that if you buy a 5 year old car, it's not going to need a new engine.
Maybe an attractive lease on an EV is the way to go. Use it,,,get rid of it.
With that said, the unpredictability of battery failures, and lack of modularity in most EV batteries that make repairs impractical and replacements very costly, are certainly concerning. However, ICE cars can also have their engines fail catastrophically and unpredictably with very high replacement costs, so it’s not that different a risk.
Last edited by wizee; 03-07-2024 at 09:54 PM.
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#910
It also seems like one of the big issues facing an EV buyer is resale value. If the battery only lasts X years and you want to sell the car a couple years before that, no one wants to take on that $$$ burden of replacing the battery without a serious reduction in the price they pay for the car.
I'd think by now there would be a lower cost solution to battery replacements. Maybe/hopefully there will be.
With an ICE car, you can generally think that if you buy a 5 year old car, it's not going to need a new engine.
Maybe an attractive lease on an EV is the way to go. Use it,,,get rid of it.
I'd think by now there would be a lower cost solution to battery replacements. Maybe/hopefully there will be.
With an ICE car, you can generally think that if you buy a 5 year old car, it's not going to need a new engine.
Maybe an attractive lease on an EV is the way to go. Use it,,,get rid of it.
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So Rivian with a big day, if they can deliver those vehicles near that price it should be a win for them. Really nice looking cars, that will be 40% cheaper than a Macan. I know the Porsche would ride better, but these EV segments are looking very competitive. Porsche has no engine advantage in these spaces, and priced the Macan EV way too high IMO. It’ll be really interesting to see how the Macan does, and then the boxster. What will that be priced at, higher than the retired GT4 / Spyders? Higher than the Macan?
#913
say good bye to the $700 oil changes
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#914
#915
I have owned both and the 718 feels much quicker than my previous 981S....yeah, it might not sound as good to the kids on the corner, but from the cockpit, it sounds good enough.
After selling my 981 CS PDK I wanted to get back into a manual coming from the NSX world, I test drove a 981 CS 3.4 6MT back to back vs 718 GTS 2.5 6MT and found the 718 just more fun, more responsive and just overall sharper.....ended up buying a 718
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