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Interesting. So it looks like it was conditionally approved last week, with 3 OBD failures that will generate a fine for each vehicle sold. Perhaps that's why the PEC LA mentioned those dates, to give Porsche time to write and install a patch that resolves the defects to avoid the fine?
$25/vehicle is chump change. They would take the $25/vehicle hit to be able to get the revenues from delivering the hybrids that are sitting in a lot. Right now, the storage cost alone is more than $25/vehicle.
Play the fine, get the cars delivered, and install a software update at a later date.
$25/vehicle is chump change. They would take the $25/vehicle hit to be able to get the revenues from delivering the hybrids that are sitting in a lot. Right now, the storage cost alone is more than $25/vehicle.
Play the fine, get the cars delivered, and install a software update at a later date.
Sure, I want my car soon too. But despite a cert date of July 26th, they're waiting until possibly October 6th to deliver vehicles. So obviously they don't care as much about the revenue or storage fees as you seem to think. What is your theory as to why?
Sure, I want my car soon too. But despite a cert date of July 26th, they're waiting until possibly October 6th to deliver vehicles. So obviously they don't care as much about the revenue or storage fees as you seem to think. What is your theory as to why?
Originally Posted by jsclarke
my "in stock at dealer date" advanced according to PCNA when I called yesterday- from 10/3 to 9/13. FWIW. John
Sure, I want my car soon too. But despite a cert date of July 26th, they're waiting until possibly October 6th to deliver vehicles. So obviously they don't care as much about the revenue or storage fees as you seem to think. What is your theory as to why?
FWIW, I don't have one of those on order but when I asked my dealer why they were giving me an 11/15 projected delivery date on a coupe due to arrive at the US port on 10/4 he told me that dealerships (including his) have been asking Porsche to be conservative on their predictions because it is much easier to explain to a customer why the car is being delivered early than to give excuses when it is late.
FWIW, I don't have one of those on order but when I asked my dealer why they were giving me an 11/15 projected delivery date on a coupe due to arrive at the US port on 10/4 he told me that dealerships (including his) have been asking Porsche to be conservative on their predictions because it is much easier to explain to a customer why the car is being delivered early than to give excuses when it is late.
I hear ya, but this thread is full of people that have been strung along for months with promises of imminent delivery, myself included, and some Panamera customers even longer. So I hope you guys are right and we all get our cars really soon, but I'm cynical until proven wrong. I'll believe it when someone posts that they drove their 2019 Cayenne e-Hybrid home.
I will say, my small local dealership stepped up to the plate and gave us a free loaner until our car arrives. I paid about 1% more than I could have if dealing with a distant high volume dealer, but stayed local based on their spiel that they want to create long term local relationships and will do what it takes to do that. So far so good.
my "in stock at dealer date" advanced according to PCNA when I called yesterday- from 10/3 to 9/13. FWIW. John
but... since then my SA texted and said don't count on delivery before 10/3. That remains their official "on sale" date from Porsche. Perhaps they prefer "under promise, over deliver" but....
That fits 90%+ of my wife's driving and she'll enjoy hypermiling it, some of the recent reviews show 27 miles doing that. Sounds good to me.
I get 14-15 out of my 2016, and am seeing about 58+ mpge a good portion of the time unless I have fun and drive a Porsche the way it was meant to be driven. 18-20+ miles on a charge would be even nicer. I have filled up the gas 7 times in 15 months of ownership (roughly 6250 miles) and so far my real actual numbers are at 44.6 mpg for the time I've owned it mostly driving around town (very little highway).
My wife never uses the potential of the engine, the pedal push down to where you feel you'd have to push more to get the gas engine to turn on is more than enough for her. Me... well, I drive different and may use the extra hp for the elect. motor differently than her.
I get 14-15 out of my 2016, and am seeing about 58+ mpge a good portion of the time unless I have fun and drive a Porsche the way it was meant to be driven. 18-20+ miles on a charge would be even nicer. I have filled up the gas 7 times in 15 months of ownership (roughly 6250 miles) and so far my real actual numbers are at 44.6 mpg for the time I've owned it mostly driving around town (very little highway).
My wife never uses the potential of the engine, the pedal push down to where you feel you'd have to push more to get the gas engine to turn on is more than enough for her. Me... well, I drive different and may use the extra hp for the elect. motor differently than her.
Have you had any battery degradation on your 2016 over the years? My wife has a Merc 350e & that has a quoted battery range of 19miles, realistic range of 12 when new & 3yrs later, now 8.
I hear the same with BMW batteries.
Have you had any battery degradation on your 2016 over the years? My wife has a Merc 350e & that has a quoted battery range of 19miles, realistic range of 12 when new & 3yrs later, now 8.
I hear the same with BMW batteries.
Not yet knock on wood. I see degradation in the cold weather (live outside Chicago). In those cases I'm getting prob. 10-12 miles when really cold. Right now it's consistent around 14-15 miles. We plug it in after use almost every time. I was worried it sat going from orig. owner, to dealer, to wholesaler, to another dealer without getting charged for a couple months before we bought it and that the battery might lose some charge capacity, but it didn't (all you with rigs sitting at the ports awaiting release, don't worry too much about batteries).
Check out this recent review of the upcoming Cayenne Turbo S E-hybrid, at 670 hp the most powerful SUV Motortrend has ever tested. "Saving the earth while hauling ***"... (-:
Right now, there is nothing on the market comparable to the E-hybrid we'll be getting in October.
Ah the pains of being an early adopter. Seems for the Canadian market they’ve added a bunch of options that weren’t available when I ordered. ACC with Innodrive, traffic road-sign recognition, an assistance package to bundle and save.
I have seen, in the UK at least, that Porsche have updated their website with WLTP figures with an electric range of 19-22 miles; 20-23 city. The configurator is also now up to date with MY2020 features / pricing. It doesn't seem as though the battery capacity has been upped, though it could also be that given the new WLTP tests are *apparently* more stringent, then these figures may be realistic, which personally suits my commute and will enable me to drive all-electric to and from work if I wanted to.
It looks to me like there has been some movement and builds and deliveries may be on track... Roll on next month!
08-06-2019, 10:57 PM
