While I'm not him - I can answer. As soon as a vehicle is titled, put in service it stops being a new vehicle. Dealer demos (and executive cars, Porsche school cars, etc) are ALL used cars. Warranty coverage begins on the "In-Service Date" - ie - the date the car is first put into regular use (as an owner vehicle, demo vehicle, executive car, etc..) so all of these demos are used cars with part of the warranty used.

 

Looks like they're getting close...or closer than previously.

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...ver-dieselgate

No word on the results performance wise however.

 

This is not good. Have you taken it to a Porsche dealer and complained. That isn't estimated EPA. Somebody at the VW dealer messed something up bad.

 

Am I missing something in this link. Where does it talk about our 3.0L Porsches?

 

I don't think a Porsche dealer would do anything for me, and I don't want to deal with another VW dealer as long as I live. I can't wait to sell this thing back to them and be done with VW.

 

Bump to make Mark's post visible.

 

Not exactly. While this was true before Dieselgate, it has changed.

Some of the Dealers had taken advantage by putting their Stop Sale diesels into loaner or other service, accumulating a set number of miles (varies by State) and titling them as used - to skirt the Stop Sale order.

Dealers were - first - titling their demos and loaners in their name and selling them as "used," but PCNA put a stop to that.

Later, some Dealers were "selling" those cars to other parts of a Dealer Group (such as an owner had several franchises - e.g. selling the CD to the Lexus arm of their Group), but PCNA stopped that, too.

While a few cars may have slipped through, PCNA was all over it (with EPA and CARB "watching" closely) and, essentially, no Stop Sale cars were sold by any mechanism.

 

I wonder if our '15 has some significant changes over your '14.

Here in Colorado we rarely see less than 33 mpg on the highway, even when battling Denver commuter traffic. (We are 2 hours from Denver, so we don't do that very often.)

On leisurely Aspen-viewing cruises, hovering around 55-65 mph, we see low 40's a lot. A trip escorting a vintage entourage at a steady 60, we got 46 over 300 miles (verified at the same pump).

"Spirited" driving on the blue road twisties, averaging 65-70 mph over a couple hundred miles, gets us 38 (returning to same elevation).

0-60 (gps) at 5500 ft elevation repeatable at 7.3-7.5 seconds.

That makes me wonder if the fix might just improve things.

 

Exactly how was it changed?

The fact that dealers were playing games doesn't change anything about the start of a warranty. The warranty starts the day the vehicle goes "into service" (aka "in-service-date") - no matter what the intention of the dealer was. They don't get to change warranty terms by playing games.

 

I'm more interested in if they can sell the CD, not the in service date.

 

My 13 used to get much better fuel economy (although never as good as what you describe, even at sea level). Then I had my only repair ever on the car (the emission heater) and my fuel economy has ever since been considerably lower. While I routinely got 31-33mpg for my driving style in the past, I'm closer to 28-29 now, if not lower. It has always made me wonder what changed. My car is up to date on all maintenance, including regular fuel filter changes/draining.

 

Yeah, another one here in the "suddenly worse MPG after service" group. Took my 13 in for a transmission issue. Still has the issue and my average went down 2MPG

 

WOW that's great mileage. I've only run 1.5 tanks through mine so far but I certainly haven't seen anything like that.

 

My dealer sold a CD last month that was a trade-in.

 

Anyone know if the dealer would have access to all of the Cayenne diesel's that are currently sequestered, as far as how they are equipped, if they release them for sale I'm interested in purchasing the highest MSRP one I can find to replace our Escalade