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Old 03-25-2022, 08:19 PM
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You can bet I will be sharing this story with my fellow instructors at our PCA Chicago mtg tomorrow
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This one should be interesting. 2012 black 6-speed coupe with 26k miles. Carfax reports minor to moderate damage. Even with that, my guess is $115k ish. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...turbo-coupe-2/

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Originally Posted by truekraut
This one should be interesting. 2012 black 6-speed coupe with 26k miles. Carfax reports minor to moderate damage. Even with that, my guess is $115k ish. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...turbo-coupe-2/
It seems that so many of the manual 997.2 Turbo's have damage reports of some sort, or they're just not spec'd all that great. Wondering if when people bought these back in 2010-2011 if they were actually using them as daily drivers causing them to get a bit more damage.
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https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...turbo-coupe-9/

Wow I am surprised this super low mileage 6spd manual in white sold for only $129K. This car is mint with only 17K miles on it.

Great deal for the buyer!!!
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Originally Posted by Ed99
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...turbo-coupe-9/

Wow I am surprised this super low mileage 6spd manual in white sold for only $129K. This car is mint with only 17K miles on it.

Great deal for the buyer!!!
felt about right to me, even with that seller's great reputation. was surprised to see it jump out to 120k so fast. as i pointed out earlier, it's a pretty modest spec and kind of boring color combo to a lot of folks. the DME would not have bothered me but the range 5 overrevs may have scared some of the pristine chasers away too. even if there are only a handful of them, they were only 25 hours ago.

the funniest part about that auction was that someone gave that car a good romp right before the DME was recorded.
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997.1 Seller made out like a bandit.
Old 03-29-2022, 11:46 PM
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I usually just read and move on, but I have to say what perspective is not being shared ...

The sticker was $129,000. Fifteen years later it sells for $129,960.

This model has reached the threshold of returning the same number 15 years later. How many other non-supercar vehicles depreciate and recover in 15 years? I'm sure someone keeps that stat out there but the number of vehicles doing that or less has to be counted on one hand. (Assuming inflation is the same for the 15 year period)
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Forgot the disclaimer of prejudice: I have a 2007 TT 6M bought in 2010 with 4k miles. Sold to a friend a few years back who put 500 miles on it and sold it back to me Now with 22k miles.

It's white with special cocoa interior. It's my favorite car I have ever owned and there have been a few.
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as a dark interior fan, i think that cocoa interior is gorgeous. i am also generally not a wood trim fan, but i love it in that one.
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Originally Posted by truekraut
This one should be interesting. 2012 black 6-speed coupe with 26k miles. Carfax reports minor to moderate damage. Even with that, my guess is $115k ish. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...turbo-coupe-2/
Wow…I stand corrected. Bit to $141k!! The market for manual .2s is still bringing in strong numbers.
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Originally Posted by truekraut
Wow…I stand corrected. Bit to $141k!! The market for manual .2s is still bringing in strong numbers.
141k is strong money. With the accident history that seems to be all the $$, and then some. Classic has the market for .2 manuals pegged at 124k currently.

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Originally Posted by Kevin8tor
141k is strong money. With the accident history that seems to be all the $$, and then some. Classic has the market for .2 manuals pegged at 124k currently.
141k with accident history AND IT DIDN'T HIT RESERVE! Wholly chit, looks like BAT is relaxing the rules on the reserve values.
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This reminds me of when eBay started up in the late 90's / early 00's. Auctions seemed pretty honest and straightforward. As time went on, the scams, shills, etc. got worse and worse until it became a "fixed price" auction house. I'm not saying BAT is doing something wrong, but some of these have stopped making sense.
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Originally Posted by ThunderRolls
This reminds me of when eBay started up in the late 90's / early 00's. Auctions seemed pretty honest and straightforward. As time went on, the scams, shills, etc. got worse and worse until it became a "fixed price" auction house. I'm not saying BAT is doing something wrong, but some of these have stopped making sense.
Agree, some of the bid / sold amounts are head scratchers. Maybe I’m wrong here, but I would think an accident-free 2012 manual coupe would struggle to get $200k…$170-$180 I could see. With that in mind, I’d love to know the rationale for setting the reserve higher than $140k for one with an accident.
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Originally Posted by truekraut
Agree, some of the bid / sold amounts are head scratchers. Maybe I’m wrong here, but I would think an accident-free 2012 manual coupe would struggle to get $200k…$170-$180 I could see. With that in mind, I’d love to know the rationale for setting the reserve higher than $140k for one with an accident.
You are spot on. The highest recent public sale was $179k, but the market average is $124k. Expecting the print the top of the market with this particular car's history is a little cheeky. Here is Classic.com current market value: https://www.classic.com/m/porsche/91.../coupe-manual/

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