Originally Posted by JohnGT

The journey may be long, but these cars are some of the most pure and visceral Porsche’s ever. IMO it’s worth the effort and time to find a good one.

Originally Posted by Bxstr

Couple of reasons. These cars are 13 years old (997.1). Anything that is around for 13 years, especially driving around thousands of other people everyday is likely to have received some damage. Lots of these cars were used on track early on and still are today. This will lead to them having a clean carfax report but when you paint meter the car or get a PPI, finding damage. I also think that people back then were buying 997 GT3's for the purpose of driving more than collecting. People did still collect them but I think more were buying to drive and were not thinking about how to buy a GT car and then sell 6 months later to make money. It just seems like that is the case but maybe that was just as common back then. Also there are only 900 or so 997.1 GT3's that came to North America. So you're dealing with a small sample size of cars. The ones that you're going to see online aren't always going to be the best examples. There will be some great examples, but they also may be priced accordingly which tends to make people not want to purchase. As mentioned, you really need to find someone that knows these cars and then use them to help you find one if you want a quicker purchase at a realistic price. Figure out what kind of story (track time/paint work) you are or are not ok with and then start looking from there. Do you want a no paint work, no track time car with low miles for $90k, that may be more difficult to find than saying you're willing to pay $100k for that car, which would be something like the red GT3 Doug currently has for sale. Also keep in mind maintenance on these cars. It gets expensive quick if an owner did not keep up with maintenance and you are then having to start from fresh flushing all fluids, getting pads/rotors done along with pinning coolant lines and replacing other items while the engine is out, compared to finding one that is up to date on maintenance.

Best of luck with the search. They're very good cars, just need to find the right one and more importantly the right previous owners that took care of the car properly. As mentioned, some of the best cars do trade off market between individual owners or people like Switchcars or Merit that deal with these cars and sellers everyday.

Originally Posted by Jrtaylor9

Congrats. If I had been in the market for a 997.2rs, that car would be on its way to my driveway :-)

I'd love to hear what all went into $100,000 of extra goodies! That is a lot of goodies.

Originally Posted by GM.RS

Congrats. You bought quite the car!

Originally Posted by drl

Congrats, beautiful car!

Originally Posted by Colorado964turbo

Looking forward to seeing another RS in Denver/Northern CO

Originally Posted by nle

It's quite the car - Dundon full intake & exhaust power package, all preventative measures, 3 sets of Mooty e88s + 1 set of bbs monoblocks, Ohlin TTX, host of suspension goodies, and all stock parts. One heck of a machine!

Congrats to yoojeankim!! Glad it's staying in the RL community.

Originally Posted by nstymatt

Holy crap that's an insane list of stuff done.. Basically the entire catalog thrown at it. Steal at $185k. Any idea on mileage?

Originally Posted by WantA997

Congrats. I fell head over heels in love with that car (and Dundon) when I saw this video on Instagram a couple of years ago.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BcSkfTsjbfF/

Originally Posted by JohnGT

The journey may be long, but these cars are some of the most pure and visceral Porsche’s ever. IMO it’s worth the effort and time to find a good one.

Originally Posted by JohnGT

They finally posted pictures and a price for this 84k mile .1 GT3:
https://www.porschemonterey.com/used...0a036aedee.htm
Also a pumpkin .1 RS:
https://www.porscheofcoloradosprings...co-id-35623521

Originally Posted by BDZ

Thanks a lot for the feedback. Realized the low production number was going to make it hard to find low mileage examples, but I was surprised to see how many under 10k GT3's already have paint work due to various causes. That's the one deal breaker for me. I'm also looking for a bone stock model (exception being exhaust). Good thing is my budget is realistic so that should help. I'm looking to trade in my e39 M5 and C4S towards the car so I'll probably end up having to go through a dealer. I'll keep switchcars in mind and will reach out to them at some point.

Originally Posted by idk_alex

Anyone know anything about this car? Its local to me and I;ve been looking for a SY Car for awhile, going to pop in this week.

SY - 997.1 GT3 - ~30k Miles
WP0AC29917S793008

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...4754/overview/

Originally Posted by idk_alex

FWIW I checked this car out the other week and wanted to get the data out there

- Absolutely 0 Maintenance Records
- Coolant Lines have not been taken care of
- Driver Side Door was repainted
- Waterpump was on its way out
- Deck Lid also looked to have been repainted but couldnt confirm
- Has a LWFW but with a weird part number, looks to be 996 CUP and not the standard 997RS or RS 4.0 Mod
- Has a Fabspeed Exhaust
- Has clear bra covering 50% hood/fenders and 100% Bumper
- Has clear bra on mirror caps that is disgusting and needs to be removed ASAP
- Mismatched Center Caps on the Wheels
- Interior Lights all burnt out
- Steering Wheel / Shifter are super ratty

I spoke with the previous owner and the dealer was in around ~85/86

The car drove great so I can't knock it there; however I didn't put it on a lift or inspect it.

I decided to pass on the car because with all the minor things wrong with it, I couldn't feel confident nothing major wasn't going to pop up.

I'm sure this car could be a great driver if someone put in the time / effort to bring everything up to date, but the dealer wouldn't budge on price and I am still GT3less...

Originally Posted by Bxstr

Going to put the VIN here too so that the above is quoted with the VIN. WP0AC29917S793008

All great info and thanks for sharing. With all of the above items, it's probably around $5-10k to get it up to spec if you wanted to add pinning the lines. Figure $2-3k for lines. Water pump will be $500 when the engine is out. $1k for the steering wheel if you wanted a new one and $200 for a new shifter. The clear bra is going to be $2k if you want it replaced and I would say interior lights could be done for sub $100. Center caps are probably $200 but that's a guess. Dealer doesn't have a ton of room in it at $85/86k. So I think they are going to hold onto it until they get a price near $90k that they're asking.

Originally Posted by idk_alex

Thank you for that,

The little errors with the car honestly didnt bother me at face value, I was just more perplexed at some of them. If I had Clearbra on my mirrors that was covered with dirt on the inside and outside, I would replace it. If I lost a center cap, I would replace it with the right one and not a random Porsche one. I guess everyone is different and maybe this car is a peach that needs a little updating, but I didn't feel like finding out what other corners were cut through its ownership.

Originally Posted by Bxstr

E39 M5 could be sold privately pretty easily or through Enthusiast Auto Group. Great driving cars. I really enjoy them. A lot of my friends own them as my friend owns an E39 M5 business.

As far as paintwork, are you avoiding due to the possible unknown? If it was documented as something cosmetic and not an accident figure out if you would be ok with that. My last C2S had paitnwork and I didn't like it, simply because I knew that come the sale, I would get questions about it. It's easier to sell a car without paintwork, but I think we may be one of the most particular groups when it comes to paintwork on cars. Porsche buyers really do not like it for some reason. Every other brand seems to look at a car and figure out if it looks good or not then purchase as long as there is not signs of accident damage. It's like over revs, normally you would do a PPI and maybe a compression test and if everything is good, you buy the car, but DME reports will make cars unsellable.

For modifications, I would say that finding one with just an exhaust should be easy enough, but I would not discount cars with small things like an upgraded steering wheel, that can be changed back, or something like grille screens. You can find stock models, but when you find the perfect car and have to spend $2k to get it back to stock, that's not a bad price to pay for an otherwise great car.

Originally Posted by BDZ

I'm pretty sure I would be able to sell both of them fairly easily but they're enthusiast cars and figured a dealer would gladly take both on trade towards a GT3. The e39 is a great drivers car in a rare color with service history going back to new that I just picked up off BaT a couple of months ago, but not EAG quality (or price). I don't mind paintwork if it's done well on my "cheaper" car but I'm looking at the GT3 as a car I'm going to enjoy which hopefully retains its value (or gains) like the past few purchases I made. That's why I'm looking for the best, low mileage example I can find. Even though I go through cars fairly often, I have a feeling i'll be holding onto the GT3 for years. As far as why I'm avoiding any paintwork, it just happens to kill the value on any modern 911 I've seen, regardless of why it was done or the quality of the job.