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Old 06-03-2021 | 03:35 PM
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05 C2S w/ 50k miles $53k. I don't know what to say anymore.
Old 06-03-2021 | 06:38 PM
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05 C2S w/ 50k miles $53k. I don't know what to say anymore.
I almost bought a 2008 C4S for $55k but when I tried to seal the deal the shifty “specialist Porsche” dealer said actually the prices is now $60k “due to market conditions”. The car has been sitting In their showroom in Portland Oregon for months!
Old 06-03-2021 | 06:57 PM
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I almost bought a 2008 C4S for $55k but when I tried to seal the deal the shifty “specialist Porsche” dealer said actually the prices is now $60k “due to market conditions”. The car has been sitting In their showroom in Portland Oregon for months!
Is this the one?

https://www.grandprimotors.com/used/...d6fba78c90.htm

Old 06-03-2021 | 07:37 PM
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Man, things are getting silly. I picked up a well optioned 08 C2S MT with 48k miles last February for $45k and felt like I overpaid a bit but was also happy because it was local. I feel much better now.
Old 06-03-2021 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Ironman88

If so you may have dodged a bullet. I would not trust that dealer.
Old 06-04-2021 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by HelpMeHelpU
This is going to be blasphemy here, but I decided to skip the 997 for now and am buying a BMW M2 Competition, which does everything I was expecting and wanted in a 997 with a little less drama and more warranty, etc.

I missed out on a great .1 a few weeks ago. It was white with Sport Classic wheels, PSE and SC, and miles in the mid 20s. It sold for just around $64k with fees. Still kicking myself.
Good luck with that. I purchased a Nee 2017 M3 Manual Competition Package and that car was the biggest POS I have ever owned. I got where I never drove it as it was such a miserable driving experience. I used to take the keys to my wife’s 997 base over that car. The M2 is just mini me version of that same disaster.

The reality is these newer M cars feel like riced out family sedans with a bunch of bolts . . . because they actually are. Horrible suspension and damping, horrible seating position, horrible steering and brake pedal fell, squirly and the worst traction control for street driving of any car on the road.
Old 06-04-2021 | 04:01 PM
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I called and was told the car got sent to auction.
Old 06-04-2021 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug H
Good luck with that. I purchased a Nee 2017 M3 Manual Competition Package and that car was the biggest POS I have ever owned. I got where I never drove it as it was such a miserable driving experience. I used to take the keys to my wife’s 997 base over that car. The M2 is just mini me version of that same disaster.

The reality is these newer M cars feel like riced out family sedans with a bunch of bolts . . . because they actually are. Horrible suspension and damping, horrible seating position, horrible steering and brake pedal fell, squirly and the worst traction control for street driving of any car on the road.


If you can't say something nice, say nothing at all. I mean ..... Jesus Christ...who does that? To directly insult another Rennlister's new purchase is bizarre. The dude just bought it. What if it was your car? Something's wrong with you.

Assuming your in Bali now please tell them you're Canadian so we don't reinforce the stereotype of an American attorney.

Congrats on the M2. It's really what the M3 should have been IMHO before they grew it much like what happened when the 991 grew in size. No doubt a kick in the ***. That's the fun part about cars. There's a wrench for every nut.
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Old 06-04-2021 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by HelpMeHelpU
This is going to be blasphemy here, but I decided to skip the 997 for now and am buying a BMW M2 Competition, which does everything I was expecting and wanted in a 997 with a little less drama and more warranty, etc.

I missed out on a great .1 a few weeks ago. It was white with Sport Classic wheels, PSE and SC, and miles in the mid 20s. It sold for just around $64k with fees. Still kicking myself.
I saw an M2 Competition review on youtube and I thought the car was pretty sweet. I’d love to drive one. Coming from the Mercedes sedan world before buying a 997.2 I hold a place in my heart for german sedans and coupes. Let us know how you like it and post some pics. You can’t beat the price for 405 hp.

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Old 06-05-2021 | 04:00 PM
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The M2 C and CS are pretty nice. Definitely the M cars to get if you want the more traditional M car feel vs. the new M3/4

Old 06-06-2021 | 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ilovemaui
I saw an M2 Competition review on youtube and I thought the car was pretty sweet. I’d love to drive one. Coming from the Mercedes sedan world before buying a 997.2 I hold a place in my heart for german sedans and coupes. Let us know how you like it and post some pics. You can’t beat the price for 405 hp.
What caught my eye was reviews of the M2 CS (CS is kinda like the RS version of GT cars) and some reviewers preferring it to a 718 GT4 (but only slightly). The point is, it's a great car.

But new CSs are near impossible to get and get without ADM, too. Used are available but usually at or above MSRP. Plus, I don't plan to track it so I don't need the best.

So I started looking at the M2 Competition model. I also asked a friend (who I met here on RL and who knows a ton about these cars, meaning P cars and BMWs and more) and his comment was that the CS was not worth the extra dough. And for my use case, I don't need the best and really preferred to keep budget around $60k (hence desire for 997).

I have a GT4 and a 993 (and feel very fortunate) and was looking for a sporty MT with back seats I can drive around anywhere. Any Porsche (911 or Cayman) is always a statement and sometimes I like to be less flashy. An M2 does this for the most part.

Plus, the 997 market is nuts now and I don't want to buy into this market, when the same cars were selling for $10k - $25k less just six months ago. And I am seeing a lot that are nothing special (boring colors and high-ish miles) for more than I want to pay.

I found one of the last allocations for an M2C and can buy it at MSRP (and they are not making it next year). Granted, six months ago M2Cs could be had for 3%-8% off MSRP, but now used ones are asking MSRP or more. So even if I don't like it, I am hoping to be able to get out relatively unscathed.

For sure I will report back.

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Old 06-06-2021 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by HelpMeHelpU
What caught my eye was reviews of the M2 CS (CS is kinda like the RS version of GT cars) and some reviewers preferring it to a 718 GT4 (but only slightly). The point is, it's a great car.

But new CSs are near impossible to get and get without ADM, too. Used are available but usually at or above MSRP. Plus, I don't plan to track it so I don't need the best.

So I started looking at the M2 Competition model. I also asked a friend (who I met here on RL and who knows a ton about these cars, meaning P cars and BMWs and more) and his comment was that the CS was not worth the extra dough. And for my use case, I don't need the best and really preferred to keep budget around $60k (hence desire for 997).

I have a GT4 and a 993 (and feel very fortunate) and was looking for a sporty MT with back seats I can drive around anywhere. Any Porsche (911 or Cayman) is always a statement and sometimes I like to be less flashy. An M2 does this for the most part.

Plus, the 997 market is nuts now and I don't want to buy into this market, when the same cars were selling for $10k - $25k less just six months ago. And I am seeing a lot that are nothing special (boring colors and high-ish miles) for more than I want to pay.

I found one of the last allocations for an M2C and can buy it at MSRP (and they are not making it next year). Granted, six months ago M2Cs could be had for 3%-8% off MSRP, but now used ones are asking MSRP or more. So even if I don't like it, I am hoping to be able to get out relatively unscathed.

For sure I will report back.

I just watched a couple reviews. I was not aware they were stopping production of the M2. I like a small form factor, having owned a 2002 back in 1980 and an E46 M3 and loving them both, the M2 is the natural descendant.
I'd buy one except living in So Cal there are two things you can count on: Potholes and traffic. For DD I need a compliant suspension and no 3rd pedal. My Alfa QV has been amazing in filling that need. But the M2 is bad-***.
Old 06-06-2021 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Ironman88

that’s the one these guys are total clowns .... it’s a real shame they have such amazing inventory.... rare colors, well optioned cars, what seems like really choice examples. Their attitudes and shady practices ruin everything. I want to support a local business, sucks when you have a **** experience.

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Old 06-06-2021 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by HelpMeHelpU
What caught my eye was reviews of the M2 CS (CS is kinda like the RS version of GT cars) and some reviewers preferring it to a 718 GT4 (but only slightly). The point is, it's a great car.

But new CSs are near impossible to get and get without ADM, too. Used are available but usually at or above MSRP.
Congrats on your M2C, you’ll have a blast with it! I really wanted an M2 CS but man it sold out fast, especially the 6MT examples. I’m still on the hunt but it is brutal and I don’t want to pay 10-20k over for a used one. I’ve driven my friend’s several times... I’ve owned many ///M’s over the last 30 years and I think the M2 CS may be the best one ever. Super special.
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