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Old 09-21-2010, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by kosmo
F it. just put in the 450hp gt3 engine in ALL 911's and get the car under 3000lbs.
Could do that but you lose PDK.

GT3 engine also costs WAY WAY WAY more than the engine in the non-GT cars.

It'll never happen.
Old 09-21-2010, 04:12 PM
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...and it's heavier than the 9A1.
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Originally Posted by rodsky
I dont think it will be that high. The current S has 385HP. Last S had 355HP. I'd look for next one to have 415-420HP.
Sounds about right to me.
Old 09-21-2010, 10:47 PM
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Wow.. very nice Nice video too.
Old 09-22-2010, 02:15 AM
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A GT3 replacement engine is about $35k, more than twice a new 9A1 engine (new, not reman).

Keep in mind that the link goes to the Intl. Brochure. I suspect there will be deviations for the US like there always are. For one, count of TPMS to be standard as it is now on all Porsche models in the US. I also doubt the 90l tank will make it to the US. Likewise, I would expect sunroofs and rear seats to be standard; although it would be nice if we can get delete options. For the rest, most of the options follow a regular Carrera S: same paint options, Hi-Fi/Bose audio systems, LSD alone/LSD-PASM Sport and sports chrono. So bascially you get a Carrera S with a wider body, better wheels, upgraded interior and a very expensive engine option for a bargain price. I would not give up a GT3 for one, but it is a great deal especially if you want a more street oriented car than a GT3. In fact, I simply can not understand why you would not a GTS if you were looking at a regular Carrera S.
Old 09-22-2010, 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 10 GT3
A GT3 replacement engine is about $35k, more than twice a new 9A1 engine (new, not reman).

Keep in mind that the link goes to the Intl. Brochure. I suspect there will be deviations for the US like there always are. For one, count of TPMS to be standard as it is now on all Porsche models in the US. I also doubt the 90l tank will make it to the US. Likewise, I would expect sunroofs and rear seats to be standard; although it would be nice if we can get delete options. For the rest, most of the options follow a regular Carrera S: same paint options, Hi-Fi/Bose audio systems, LSD alone/LSD-PASM Sport and sports chrono. So bascially you get a Carrera S with a wider body, better wheels, upgraded interior and a very expensive engine option for a bargain price. I would not give up a GT3 for one, but it is a great deal especially if you want a more street oriented car than a GT3. In fact, I simply can not understand why you would not a GTS if you were looking at a regular Carrera S.
My one disagreement would be with the reference to the "upgraded interior". I'm not a big fan of the synthetic suede (alcantera) and much prefer real leather. I wonder if normal full leather is an option.
Old 09-22-2010, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike in CA
My one disagreement would be with the reference to the "upgraded interior". I'm not a big fan of the synthetic suede (alcantera) and much prefer real leather. I wonder if normal full leather is an option.
I am sure you can get full leather to replace those alcantara bits.
Old 09-22-2010, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by quickxotica
Wow... a non-sunroof 911 that isn't a GT3. FINALLY room for a helmet on DE days! Hooray!
(Not to mention the weight-savings). Still, at 3140lb she ain't no feather.
On the scales at Roebling Road my 10 GT3 weighed 3230 with a half tank of gas. Subtract round numbers of 60 lbs for fuel and my car weighs 3170, so 3140 is light. I am suspect at the weight though. Maybe no oil.
Old 09-22-2010, 08:22 PM
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You can configure the cosmetics of the GTS (interior, wheels, paint) just like any other Carrera.
That is, if you can find a dealer with any available build-slots for one.
Old 09-22-2010, 09:19 PM
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3140 is pretty light for a modern car though. No heavier than the last aircooled 911, the 993.
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Not to rain on anyone's parade—but I saw a new German car magazine at a friends house last night that had an article on the new 991—and the car looks and sounds sensational.

It's a completely new car apparently—and much improved. (Completely new chassis, engine and interior.) Very few of the old parts carried over. The first comprehensive re-design of the water-cooled car.

So as cool as that GTS looks...there could be some buyers remorse when the 991 arrives.
Old 09-23-2010, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Dottore
So as cool as that GTS looks...there could be some buyers remorse when the 991 arrives.
Pfft. If the 991 is that much better, I'll wait until the 3rd or 4th model year (you know, after they work the bugs out) and get one of those too!
Old 09-23-2010, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Dottore
So as cool as that GTS looks...there could be some buyers remorse when the 991 arrives.
After seeing the latest new gen interior shots, the GTS looks even better. Too much Panamera. The 997.2 just might be the 2K 993.

Only time will tell.
Old 09-29-2010, 02:06 AM
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Default My reason for wanting the GTS...

Glad the tone has gotten back to normal around here. I'm a newbie on Rennlist; I have always wanted a modern 911 but could never fit -- I'm 6'7" -- until the 997 came out. Even then, I felt like Porsche never quite made what I wanted. The GTS is almost exactly the 911 I've dreamed of. I want a car that I can push and occasionally take down the road to Sears Point, but I'd also like to be able to drive from San Francisco to Monterey, take my wife along, and have her enjoy the experience. I don't need a lot of things that don't impact performance, but GT3 is simply too harsh and bit over the top for my needs.

In a perfect world I'd get the 6-speed -- but after having 4 knee surgeries it will probably be the PDK for me. I want to keep this one awhile and I can't take the chance of getting the perfect ride -- only to have my knee issues escalate and make it unusable.

One bummer; my dealer called the factory rep on my behalf and the GTS will have the sunroof in the USA. This is frustrating, as I really need the headroom and don't care much for sunroofs in general. So, if I'm ever going to fit with a helmet on, I need to figure out a sound way to lower (or replace) the seat.

Does anyone here know if the sport buckets sit lower or have less padding, which might give me a touch more headroom?

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Old 09-29-2010, 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by brt3
One bummer; my dealer called the factory rep on my behalf and the GTS will have the sunroof in the USA. This is frustrating, as I really need the headroom and don't care much for sunroofs in general. So, if I'm ever going to fit with a helmet on, I need to figure out a sound way to lower (or replace) the seat.

Does anyone here know if the sport buckets sit lower or have less padding, which might give me a touch more headroom?
I'm with you on the sunroof. I wish there was a <delete> option for it, as I never open mine and the extra headroom would be nice for helmets.

Re: the sport buckets, the only set I've sat in was in a couple of Boxter Spyders and although my recollection was that they sat lower than the lowest setting on the sport or standard seats, I couldn't say for sure. Your rep could probably find out for sure as I'm certain there is a measurement on them somewhere.


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