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tiptronic > pdk > 6speed
the 996TT 6 speed is junk
My favorite manual shifting action was an Acura Integra Type R 5 speed which uses rods instead of cables.
I drove a 2014 991 7 speed and I would say the shifting was better than the 996 as it felt more durable but still no comparison to the Acura.
Overall, I like the 996TT better than the turbo integra as the A/C works, the floor doesn't get hot, there is traction in first and second gear, and she sounds great.
I think the LSD impacts how you shift; as noted, breaking the inside rear wheel was fairly apparent on the street too - LSD remedied that, so now I find I can really put the power down more so than I could with an open diff, shifting faster and applying more throttle than before.
Then that became somewhat moot when the front diff was removed.
All the G50 gearboxes are essentially the same. The ability to shift quickly and easily is most impacted by the clutch / flywheel one uses and to a smaller extent by the shifter. With the hardware, shifting a G50 box is quite effortless. .
My favorite manual shifting action was an Acura Integra Type R 5 speed which uses rods instead of cables.
I drove a 2014 991 7 speed and I would say the shifting was better than the 996 as it felt more durable but still no comparison to the Acura.
Overall, I like the 996TT better than the turbo integra as the A/C works, the floor doesn't get hot, there is traction in first and second gear, and she sounds great.
The 5 speed on my EP3 civic si shifted like butter when i first purchased it with 88k miles on the clock, now it has over 200K and shifts like a truck (worn synchros..)
My dc2 integra has the same issues and grinds really hard when doing the 2 -> 3 shift on the track @ full tilt
The point i was trying to make about the 996TT 6 speed is that it has problems that are expensive to fix. The 722.6 Tiptronic is reliable and ubiquitous should it need parts. I think they're a great value proposition. I keep mine in manual mode most of the time like @Carlo_Carrera and the great is fun to drive. The only thing I dont like is the adaptive learning that seems to creep up after a week or two of driving and it effects throttle response. Resetting the TCU takes a few minutes and I notice a big difference right away.
The point i was trying to make about the 996TT 6 speed is that it has problems that are expensive to fix.
I'm not sure I agree with that assessment? Unless it's abused I have found the G50 transmission to be as robust and reliable as any MT I've ever had. Sure, bearings can need to be replaced if enough heat cycling has occurred from tracking or whatever. But as long as shifts are not missed or other abusive behavior is consistent. I've always found the MT six speed to be very reliably built and I've even dealt with "2nd gear popout" and through no fault of my own.
No Porsche transmissions are "inexpensive" to repair and I have no direct experience as an owner with a PDK, but have driven plenty of cars with them, and even the Tip with the MB box. I love the way the PDK shifts, less so the Tip. But again, that's only as a driver with minimal seat time in either. I enjoy manual shifting, and given this 996 Turbo is in my opinion one of the "last" of the truly "analog" 911's, I think the MT best suits the car. The only time I have ever wished that my current Turbo was a Tip, was while stopping and going in Los Angeles area traffic.
All the G50 gearboxes are essentially the same. The ability to shift quickly and easily is most impacted by the clutch / flywheel one uses and to a smaller extent by the shifter. With the hardware, shifting a G50 box is quite effortless. .
Wish it was mine, but the B18C1 in my GSR is almost as good
I haven't had the B18C5R out in years. It is the shortest shifting car I have (Z-Speed shifter) and Energy Suspension shifter bushings - I can absolutely nail the 1-2, 2-3 by the sound the car makes at 9000rpm, it's very cool.
I'm not sure I agree with that assessment? Unless it's abused I have found the G50 transmission to be as robust and reliable as any MT I've ever had. Sure, bearings can need to be replaced if enough heat cycling has occurred from tracking or whatever. But as long as shifts are not missed or other abusive behavior is consistent. I've always found the MT six speed to be very reliably built and I've even dealt with "2nd gear popout" and through no fault of my own.
No Porsche transmissions are "inexpensive" to repair and I have no direct experience as an owner with a PDK, but have driven plenty of cars with them, and even the Tip with the MB box. I love the way the PDK shifts, less so the Tip. But again, that's only as a driver with minimal seat time in either. I enjoy manual shifting, and given this 996 Turbo is in my opinion one of the "last" of the truly "analog" 911's, I think the MT best suits the car. The only time I have ever wished that my current Turbo was a Tip, was while stopping and going in Los Angeles area traffic.
Do any high mileage 6 speeds not have the 2nd gear popout problem or the clutch slave cylinder /actuator go bad? I factored alot of this into my decision to buy a tip as I don't have the time to drop the drive train to "do it right"
As far as inexpensive goes..I suppose its relative to your income/net worth but the costs to rebuild a tiptronic didn't scare me at all.
Do any high mileage 6 speeds not have the 2nd gear popout problem or the clutch slave cylinder /actuator go bad? I factored alot of this into my decision to buy a tip as I don't have the time to drop the drive train to "do it right"
As far as inexpensive goes..I suppose its relative to your income/net worth but the costs to rebuild a tiptronic didn't scare me at all.
My car never had second gear pop out or any issues with slave/accumulator (I converted to GT2 slave around 4 years into ownership to get rid of the accumulator though, at the same time I had to take everything out to replace a slipping clutch and address the coolant lines, but during the years it was being daily driven it was fine).
What did eventually fail in my car was something with 3rd gear, but builder said that is kind of an expected weak point for cars ran hard on track with sticky tires.
01-02-2024, 04:02 PM
