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I can't see any of these bolt in solutions worth their value. Have a proper shop weld in a cage the right way. Most bolt in don't even fit tight to the car. And the ones I see interfere with the floor, they should wrap around the floor/rocker and be reinforced from underneath like mentioned above.
Agreed. However most people aren't racing their cars (Let alone ever hitting the track at all) and also want something removable, that doesn't create lasting damage. Hence all the bolt in "roll bars" that don't use mounting plates to the floor that require drilling.
So if you panel bond those plates to the floor, when you attach the lower sandwich plate you need to drill through the floor to allow the studs to come up through?
I totally agree with you about the "rollbars", anything using the seat belt mounts simply isn't safe enough to provide any meaningful roll over protection. Best case two bolts in shear, but on the main hoop, worst case 4 bolts in shear. The Porsche Teq bar is the same but far lighter and has some OEM+ cred.
This is why I've got a Brey Krause "spider man" harness bar sitting in my basement. It's going to provide just as much function and protection as the "rollbars", while weighing almost nothing and will be much more easily/quickly installed/removed.
Thats correct Josh, 3 holes through the floor on both sides for the studded plate to come up through. It’s very simple and super secure.
I agree 100% on the Brey Krause harness. That’s what I would do or the OEM Teq harness “roll” bar for a street car that sees the occasional track day.
Reminds me I need to change out my roll bar. I've been keeping my eye on a couple of complete clubsport ones that I've seen available recently. Would really like to do the welded in FIA cage though.
Reminds me I need to change out my roll bar. I've been keeping my eye on a couple of complete clubsport ones that I've seen available recently. Would really like to do the welded in FIA cage though.
With your car Chris, especially if you end up running slicks, I would definitely think long and hard of a proper weld in cage. I certainly feel much better now having a proper cage to protect me if the unexpected happens. My rule of thumb is, if you can comfortably outrun pretty much all well driven 996/997Cups, it's time for a proper cage.
I have a RSS 930 half cage in my '2 and it's definitely functional, bolts to the towers and lower seat belt bracket, if you shear that lower mount you're probably not walking away anyway...that said I'll probably upgrade to an OEM Heigo/996/997 Clubsport setup to have full-cage capability in the future.... full-cage cars always feel so good
Reminds me I need to change out my roll bar. I've been keeping my eye on a couple of complete clubsport ones that I've seen available recently. Would really like to do the welded in FIA cage though.
yea, at your state, bring the car to a proper chassis shop in the off-season and have a nice full cage built.
gonna keep driving mine till it starts snowing and they put down salt on the roads
how do people buy 911s in general and not drive them? i see low mileage 911s of all generations on BaT all the time and think..how....why? these cars are so much fun to drive!
gonna keep driving mine till it starts snowing and they put down salt on the roads
how do people buy 911s in general and not drive them? i see low mileage 911s of all generations on BaT all the time and think..how....why? these cars are so much fun to drive!
I used to wonder the same thing and I think I am finding the answer. Too many cars!! The turbo is intended to be my daily driver, which is why it now has snow tires. But we have an 87 911, a 2000 M Roadster from new, a 2015 911 GTS, and our 6 spd cayenne for just the wife and I, who both work from home. While not intentional, the 87 and the GTS (which was the wife's daily) now see fairly low usage as we try to work them into the rotation when we can. I am lucky if I hit 400 miles a year on the roadster, which has a been a problem for at least a decade. And while the obvious answer is to sell some, they are like children now and we just can't. I maintain them all and can store them all, so not a lot of drive to sell either.
that's what I do, I'd run all winter if there wasn't salt/brine
Originally Posted by vtec_
gonna keep driving mine till it starts snowing and they put down salt on the roads
how do people buy 911s in general and not drive them? i see low mileage 911s of all generations on BaT all the time and think..how....why? these cars are so much fun to drive!
Drove it for the first time in about 2 weeks. After about 15mins I heard a high pitched noise coming from the front. Restarted engine and the noise was gone but gradually came back after 10-15mins. The tank was at 1/4. I filled it up and the noise didn't return. Guess FP is on the way out?
gonna keep driving mine till it starts snowing and they put down salt on the roads
how do people buy 911s in general and not drive them? i see low mileage 911s of all generations on BaT all the time and think..how....why? these cars are so much fun to drive!
They probably have several cars. Personally I don't like driving mine all the time and prefer just a nice pickup with a good sound system for comfort and entertainment. I'm doing about 2,000 miles a year in my Porsche and maybe 15,000 in other cars.
11-30-2023 | 02:43 PM
And while the obvious answer is to sell some, they are like children now and we just can't. I maintain them all and can store them all, so not a lot of drive to sell either.
