Prices Keep Drifting Up
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#1307
Cheapest Porsche I ever bought was an ‘89 C4 back in early 2K, when that car was being ridiculed to scorn by the PCA “purists”.
MY1999 is the exact same thing. Probably even bigger.
And to say the 996 3-pedal Coupe will never be collectible was ignorant in 2017, but it’s downright absurd now as they’re already being collected.
MY1999 is the exact same thing. Probably even bigger.
And to say the 996 3-pedal Coupe will never be collectible was ignorant in 2017, but it’s downright absurd now as they’re already being collected.
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Cheapest Porsche I ever bought was an ‘89 C4 back in early 2K, when that car was being ridiculed to scorn by the PCA “purists”.
MY1999 is the exact same thing. Probably even bigger.
And to say the 996 3-pedal Coupe will never be collectible was ignorant in 2017, but it’s downright absurd now as they’re already being collected.
MY1999 is the exact same thing. Probably even bigger.
And to say the 996 3-pedal Coupe will never be collectible was ignorant in 2017, but it’s downright absurd now as they’re already being collected.
1) As of today, there are only 2 996's for sub $30K CAD and they are both auto, one is a convertible, and they have driver mileage. When I purchased my car for $21,000 CAD, you could choose from a list of sub $30K 6 speed coupes.
2) When you get into $30K plus, all the examples are rebuilt, convertible, or auto until you come up to a $38K twin of my car. The car has 100K miles and someone swapped out the front amber lenses (rears are still on at least). My car had 60K miles and passed the PPI with flying colours and I paid nearly half.
3) Once you hit $40K you get into some hard top 6 speeds sharing space with 997's. The market has changed so much. Most of the quality examples are above $50K and are being sold by local Porsche dealers with additional fees attached (one has a $999 certification in addition to the listed price).
Out of all the sub $40K cars, there is only one 6 speed coupe I would consider seeing and it has $100K miles on it. Even the more expensive listings are mostly convertibles with just a few 6 speed coupes listed province wide spanning $40-$60K. This is one of the reasons I do not regret over-maintaining mine and opting for a elective FSI.
Fact is, quality 6 speed coupes are becoming increasingly rare and purchasing one of the cheap examples, such as the one listed on Jalopnik above, may turn into a game of hot potato, passing a car riddled with problems on to the next sucker.
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#1310
Markets are unpredictable. All you can say is that thing that everybody already knows is not likely to move the market. Example: Too many 996's were produced therefore they will not become collectible. This is not information. The best definition of information is 'surprise'. Keep an eye out for that.
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bdronsick (06-21-2021)
#1311
Sometimes I stop by the 997 forum, they like to completely skip the 996. From the 993, right into "the 997 is the last raw Porsche", disregarding that even low option no-nanny 996's are starting to command big money. Just something I find interesting.
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#1312
Everyone's definition of what a "collectible" car is will vary, along with other estimations, such as rarity, desirability, etc. I don't have a hard number on what constitutes "rare", but if I can open up Craigslist in a midsize metro and regularly find that car listed, it's probably a good sign that it's not rare, or collectible.
People collect Corvettes too, and they're not worth anything.
People collect Corvettes too, and they're not worth anything.
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bdronsick (06-21-2021)
#1314
Any opinion about rarity, desirability, collectibility, etc. is pointless - emotion drives too many purchases and things no "experts" every thought would be worth anything become valuable because some celebrity bought one, wore one, ate one, etc....I mean c'mon, corvettes were driven by astronauts!
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Actually GT1 was homologated on two 911 model types.
The first was the Type 993 that DNF 1997 LeMans, for mechanical reasons.
The second GT1 was Type 996, that won Overall at 1998 LeMans. For mechanical reasons.
There are I believe 23 of those 996’s licensed for road use. All now worth more than twenty million dollars. Each.
FWIW there is no Corvette ever that won Overall at LeMans. Or that is worth anywhere near even one million dollars.
The first was the Type 993 that DNF 1997 LeMans, for mechanical reasons.
The second GT1 was Type 996, that won Overall at 1998 LeMans. For mechanical reasons.
There are I believe 23 of those 996’s licensed for road use. All now worth more than twenty million dollars. Each.
FWIW there is no Corvette ever that won Overall at LeMans. Or that is worth anywhere near even one million dollars.
#1319
Maybe I'm an outlier but even $25k is hardly a "worth nothing" number, which those days for nice 996's are slipping away quicker and quicker.
#1320
A market like this pulls along all sorts of garbage when money has nowhere else to go. The chaff gets picked last, and dumped first. In the end, most 996s will never appreciate like you think they will (that doesn't mean that prices will not continue to go up. If they do, it will not surprise me one bit).