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Old 06-16-2021 | 10:35 PM
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Bookmarking, and I'll be back in a decade if my '99 doesn't sell for six figures, inflation and maintenance and so on accounted for. You'll cover the difference if not, right?
Old 06-16-2021 | 10:37 PM
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My 996 is a nice weather cruiser.
I keep going back and forth between just a refreshed stock suspension or an upgrade like Ohlins. I'm leaning toward stock because of ride compliance with garbage roads around me.
I don't intend on ever selling my car fwiw
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Old 06-17-2021 | 12:39 AM
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Honestly stock suspension prices have gone up so high in the past few years that coilovers like Ohlins are not to far off price wise. I have never heard anyone say that high end suspension upgrades like Ohlins are a negative. There are also many other very good coilovers that don't break the bank like Feal coilovers. And in fact everything I have heard and read, say that most of the aftermarket suspensions make the car ride better on street and on the track. Just my .02
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Old 06-17-2021 | 01:32 AM
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I dont agree with anything you said, Porsche developed the car with the suspension together.
So some after market coil over manufacture makes it better ?

No.
Old 06-17-2021 | 02:14 AM
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Porsche developed a great automobile and a wonderful suspension no doubt. But it is a production vehicle, and as such I would not think that a standard suspension would perform like high end parts. Just look at the GT3-GT2 coilovers versus our shocks and springs. I agree that if the vehicle never sees the track or any serious autocross, than a stock or Porsche sport setup would be absolutely fine. Look at the difference between the C2 and C4S/Turbo, Porsche felt they needed a more sport setup and quit a bit stiffer than a C2. People over in the Turbo forum will tell you that the Ohlins coilovers are a significant change over stock setup on both street and the track. I am just repeating what I have heard and read so many times. Please don't shot the messenger. I believe you even said you might go Ohlins, so you must know there great coilovers.

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Old 06-17-2021 | 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by GarrettSR5
I dont agree with anything you said, Porsche developed the car with the suspension together.
So some after market coil over manufacture makes it better ?

No.
Surely, you don't think that the 996 stock suspension is above improvement. My Feal setup is a mid-grade coilover, and performs far better than it did on stock setup. Not to mention my car looked like an SUV in stock form.
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Old 06-17-2021 | 09:35 AM
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Porsche stock suspension is hard to beat for DD. Track is another story altogether. Horses for courses.
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Old 06-17-2021 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by rino924
I was pricing out ohlins/bilstein coilovers and new control arms/end links/etc, but I suppose I could just swap out new bushings and save a boatload.
It was cheaper to replace the control arms (with Meyle and TRW components) than swapping out bushings when I replaced everything this past winter.
Old 06-17-2021 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by barbancourt
Surely, you don't think that the 996 stock suspension is above improvement. My Feal setup is a mid-grade coilover, and performs far better than it did on stock setup. Not to mention my car looked like an SUV in stock form.
I need to research the Feal setup. I was planning on replacing all control arms, end links, etc. Buying Feals and all the Meyle suspension components might be a tad cheaper than the Ohlins themselves.
Old 06-17-2021 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by bdronsick
Providing you cover the universe if the sun doesn’t come up you know when
Deal! The corollary, of course, is that I'll give you sole credit when the 996 reaches that value.

All in good fun. I really do appreciate your enthusiasm. I'm just a bit more skeptical about future collectibility.

In the meantime, I can't stop driving mine.
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Originally Posted by c210rg
Porsche developed a great automobile and a wonderful suspension no doubt. But it is a production vehicle, and as such I would not think that a standard suspension would perform like high end parts. Just look at the GT3-GT2 coilovers versus our shocks and springs. I agree that if the vehicle never sees the track or any serious autocross, than a stock or Porsche sport setup would be absolutely fine. Look at the difference between the C2 and C4S/Turbo, Porsche felt they needed a more sport setup and quit a bit stiffer than a C2. People over in the Turbo forum will tell you that the Ohlins coilovers are a significant change over stock setup on both street and the track. I am just repeating what I have heard and read so many times. Please don't shot the messenger. I believe you even said you might go Ohlins, so you must know there great coilovers.
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Old 06-17-2021 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by barbancourt
Surely, you don't think that the 996 stock suspension is above improvement. My Feal setup is a mid-grade coilover, and performs far better than it did on stock setup. Not to mention my car looked like an SUV in stock form.
Lol
Old 06-17-2021 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GarrettSR5
I dont agree with anything you said, Porsche developed the car with the suspension together.
So some after market coil over manufacture makes it better ?

No.
You can always make something better. However, the question you gotta ask yourself is what your definition of better is.

Do you want a softer suspension with more clearance for potholes for comfortable street driving? Do you want a tighter suspension for the track? Or do you want an adjustable suspension that will give you both? The stock Oem suspension gives the first. An after market suspension can give you the second and third example.

This doesn't take into consideration cost, which it seems that many aftermarket suppliers provide cost savings versus stock.

Many options making it your call.
Old 06-17-2021 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by GarrettSR5
My 996 is a nice weather cruiser.
I keep going back and forth between just a refreshed stock suspension or an upgrade like Ohlins. I'm leaning toward stock because of ride compliance with garbage roads around me.
I don't intend on ever selling my car fwiw
Go coilovers and don't look back.
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Old 06-17-2021 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by rino924
I need to research the Feal setup. I was planning on replacing all control arms, end links, etc. Buying Feals and all the Meyle suspension components might be a tad cheaper than the Ohlins themselves.
I did Feal and recently replaced all control arms/bushings with TRW/Meyle parts. I also have Tarret adjustable rear toe arms, Powergrid drop links front and rear, Eibach sways, and OEM GT3 rear LCA. It's a great handling car. I do wonder if I'm missing anything from the Ohlins though.


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