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Old 06-09-2022, 10:10 AM
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Why, when you can buy this better GT cheaper

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...he-911-gt2-25/


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Kind of sounds like what would happen if I wanted to buy a new GT car from Porsche!
Old 06-09-2022, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by bdronsick
Why, when you can buy this better GT cheaper

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...he-911-gt2-25/
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... plus the Arctic Silver isn't helping any 996.
Artic Silver? Hard pass Plus I want a NA GT car - not a Dyson sounding 996 with the wrong fried egg lights.
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Old 06-09-2022, 10:25 AM
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Looks like low mileage 996s on BAT continue to command a huge premium with a number of examples up for auction. As always, the market continues to evolve. Possible that we are now seeing discerning collectors enter the market as the demand from the first time 911 buyer pauses.

But we are also seeing some gems that have come up for sale.
Old 06-09-2022, 10:27 AM
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So true in 2017

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/buying-maintenance/a9982953/why-the-996-generation-porsche-911-will-never-be-collectible/


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Artic Silver? Hard pass Plus I want a NA GT car - not a Dyson sounding 996 with the wrong fried egg lights.
Old 06-09-2022, 10:36 AM
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Approaching 20 years, what really is low mileage for a 996? My 4s was driven an average of 1,350 miles/year for the first 16 years and 12,300 miles/year for the past 3 years under my ownership. Would 58,000 miles on a 19 year old car be considered low mileage?
Old 06-09-2022, 10:42 AM
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I would call 58K miles "low driver miles" on a 911

Old 06-09-2022, 10:52 AM
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Once you get to cars being 20 years old total mileage isn't as important. I'd want my car to be driven at least 5k miles a year and maintained properly. A guy in UK was trying to keep his GT3 as a low mile example. Turns out mice had a dinner party on his motor costing him $10k+ in replacement costs. What brings you more joy? Driving the car as much as you want or a low number on the odometer?
Old 06-09-2022, 10:55 AM
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It's easier for a collector to recognize a trend, in this case the 996, and buy the lowest mileage car they can.

An enthusiast will take the time to understand the issues and more importantly all of the solutions that are available to fix or prevent the issues. Therefore and enthusiast will look at a 58k mile car as low mileage.
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Old 06-09-2022, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by plpete84
Artic Silver? Hard pass Plus I want a NA GT car - not a Dyson sounding 996 with the wrong fried egg lights.

I would tend to agree. Always preferred the NA cars. It’s funny, my love of Porsches really developed via VIDEO GAMES believe it or not…ie. Need for Speed and later, Forza. My go to was 996 and 997, 997.2 GT3. Sounds silly, but the NA cars sound so much better, so I always picked them over Turbos. And forza was painstakingly accurate in developing their sounds for each car. Say what you want about video games, but those games are actually really cool, and clearly develop a passion for cars and racing. I’d love to get a simulator in the basement to enjoy with my future son.
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Old 06-09-2022, 11:23 AM
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Most of the photos done
Discussing the reserve now
Thought?
Critiques?
Suggestions?




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Old 06-09-2022, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by NYoutftr
Most of the photos done
Discussing the reserve now
Thought?
Critiques?
Suggestions?




Such a great looking car. Best of luck with the sale. Do you have any idea of what you’ll be getting into next, if anything?
Old 06-09-2022, 11:33 AM
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I'll throw out a bdronsick answer and say set the reserve to $1m.

But honestly, yours is about as prime as it gets, $50k+. Curious on the feedback from potential buyers on your add-ons since they're all tasteful. I assume they're all staying on the car?
Old 06-09-2022, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Billup
I'll throw out a bdronsick answer and say set the reserve to $1m.

But honestly, yours is about as prime as it gets, $50k+. Curious on the feedback from potential buyers on your add-ons since they're all tasteful. I assume they're all staying on the car?
Yes.

That was a big debate inside my head

What to do about mods vs putting back.

So this is what I came up, feedback on this as well is welcome.

I have everything, stock ECU Tune from Evolution Motorsports that can be put back in right at your home.
I have the stock plenum and throttle body
I have the stock exhaust manifolds. I saved the Kline and Tubi Style boxes for next owner if they want them.
I have everything except the stock mufflers and the catalytic converters, but they can sourced.
I have all the interior components. The back seats may not have been sat it all the way back to 2004. They were stored in my home since I installed the color match Das Sport Roll Bar.
I already uploaded them to Bat.
This is how I presented it.








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Old 06-09-2022, 12:49 PM
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Not what you want to hear but put the whole car back to 100% stock and toss the mods in boxes, not the original car. 996 is aging out of the enthusiast and into the collector market. No collector wants a project. "All the money" cars on BaT are turn-key all-original, period. Just my 2-cents
Old 06-09-2022, 01:38 PM
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Well...

Imho, there may be another side to this. I don't remember the mileage on NYs car, but unless it's very, very, very low, collectors won't have an interest anyway. But an enthusiast will.

The car is gorgeous, well sorted and taken car of. Any enthusiast will recognize that it will be cheaper to buy a 996 like this over one that they can get cheaper, then have to pay for a refresh and upgrades to get it to this level. I am not saying that every buyer is logical, but those with brain cells will tally it up.

If you don't get your price, you can always pull it from the auction. Yeah, I know, there is a cost to everything. Just thinking out loud with you.
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