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Old 04-14-2021, 06:03 PM
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i have built my own exhaust with roughly the same thing. I used magnaflow glass packs. I don't have a prayer of being under 95 and thats with the slightly longer boxster exhaust. On a 996, I think you're going to find that this setup is essentially the same as being straight piped.
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Yeah... kind of afraid of that. Thanks for the input QC.

I was really hoping that actual mufflers would do a better job knocking the sound down than the cats do, sounds like in your experience, not so much.

You think a turn down/up or some other trickery can help spoof track mic’s ?

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Old 04-14-2021, 06:51 PM
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So you need to retain the cats to pass inspection? So does anyone make a muffler delete to make this less than 95db?
Old 04-14-2021, 07:57 PM
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Any idea how much tips turned down will buy you?
Old 04-14-2021, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by zbomb
Yeah... kind of afraid of that. Thanks for the input QC.

I was really hoping that actual mufflers would do a better job knocking the sound down than the cats do, sounds like in your experience, not so much.

You think a turn down/up or some other trickery can help spoof track mic’s ?
At Laguna Seca, there's been some tomfoolery with directed exhaust tips to lower the decibel readings at the sensors
Old 04-14-2021, 08:11 PM
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Yup, and they are very specific in their design.

From what I’ve gathered, the tracks I’m concerned about don’t always leave the mics in the same spots....

Its worth messing around with as I have the stock cats to fall back on and really, I’ve only got hassled for sound the one time and I was able to mitigate it. Not all the tracks I’ll be running have the 95DB restriction and if I could pick up some power with the deletion of the cats and a less restrictive muffler in its place, I’d run them anywhere I thought I could get away with it. Worse came to worse, I could even swap at the track if I had to, I’d just get a 2nd set of 02 sensors so I could avoid the worst part of the job. It would take maybe an hour.
Old 04-14-2021, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by zbomb
Not all the tracks I’ll be running have the 95DB restriction and if I could pick up some power with the deletion of the cats and a less restrictive muffler in its place, I’d run them anywhere I thought I could get away with it. Worse came to worse, I could even swap at the track if I had to, I’d just get a 2nd set of 02 sensors so I could avoid the worst part of the job. It would take maybe an hour.
I wonder if you could achieve that sound reduction by running a pair of those race mufflers in series so to keep the flow high and deriving some sound mitigation from the second one?
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Originally Posted by jobyt
I wonder if you could achieve that sound reduction by running a pair of those race mufflers in series so to keep the flow high and deriving some sound mitigation from the second one?
Maybe 1 where the cat is and another smaller in the muffler delete pipe.

The main problem I have with trying to get creative is I don’t have a welder and wouldn’t know how to use it if I did.

The next problem is, I dont have any friends with welders to mooch off of or bribe with craft brews or good peach shine.
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I think the welding thing is like anything else we do in this hobby. It takes practice. It’s not like you are trying to do body work work or restoration. I’d say you need a working design to meet the noise regs first but doubt it’s out of your skill set. What are they using to weld exhaust, mig with argon? Tig if you want real pretty?

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I have mig tig and stick....
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I picked up a set of bottles with torch, stick welder, and basic mig, no argon for helping someone move recently. Haven’t tried them yet.
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Originally Posted by nrp3
I think the welding thing is like anything else we do in this hobby. It takes practice. It’s not like you are trying to do body work work or restoration. I’d say you need a working design to meet the noise regs first but doubt it’s out of your skill set. What are they using to weld exhaust, mig with argon? Tig if you want real pretty?
Mig or tig would work - I thin most exhaust shops mig and the nice stuff is tig.

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I have mig tig and stick....
You have everything !

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Originally Posted by theprf
I have mig tig and stick....
show me your stack of dimes...
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Old 04-17-2021, 04:58 PM
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Next track day on Thursday, excited to get back to Thompson. Tomorrow will get its pre track day check over. Also booked another couple day so I’ve got 5 in front of me with a little break mid to end of May to take a look at how the car is performing and assess.

Really contemplating having the cup parts sprayed black, if any New England guys have any recommendations for a shop that can spray imperfect race car parts for a nice price, please pass along.

Looks like I forgot to post the single photo I have of the car so far from Palmer, hoping to get some more.




Also, Cut out my fastest lap of the day, 1:54. Too bad my cleanest lap came in the 2nd session - wish I had that clear of track after getting more comfortable as the day had progressed... is what it is. Good progress from my first event there and something to build off of. Car is pretty fast, did not have to give a single point by all day.

Porsche 996 - 1:54 Best Lap at Palmer


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Old 04-17-2021, 05:13 PM
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That's impressive!
Now I sorta wish I were in your rungroup. Despite having 150 more HP & a lot more torque I am 2 seconds slower - and I was among the slowest cars in my run group running 1:56 - 1:59's.


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