993 WB Values are UP!!!
02-24-2023, 07:15 PM
#2941
Racer
Does that mean that I would purchase a car there and expect it to be "perfect"? No.
02-24-2023, 11:19 PM
#2942
It was fascinating...like walking through a modern Porsche, and other brands, low end museum (common cars). So much inventory, it was astounding...and we had the place to ourselves...just walked right in, no one greeted us, and I found the car I had been looking at on their website, opened it up and sat in it.
As for "quality" - I think 95% of their inventory is for restoration or major modification projects where you don't care about history, and the other 5% would probably flag pretty hard on a PPI. Looking at enough of their listings, the key phrase is "mechanically sound" - which to me means "you can maybe drive it out of here, but you better have AAA on speed dial to get all the way home."
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As for "quality" - I think 95% of their inventory is for restoration or major modification projects where you don't care about history, and the other 5% would probably flag pretty hard on a PPI. Looking at enough of their listings, the key phrase is "mechanically sound" - which to me means "you can maybe drive it out of here, but you better have AAA on speed dial to get all the way home."
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Restoration/mod donor makes sense, still dependent on quality and price.
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Britzky9 (02-25-2023)
02-25-2023, 11:33 AM
#2943
Racer
Okay, so crazy - that reference car I mentioned a few posts back? It's the C4S that is up for sale on Pcarmarket...I knew it looked familiar! Someone added decals...
https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/1...-carrera-4s-8/
https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/1...-carrera-4s-8/
02-25-2023, 07:52 PM
#2944
Rennlist Member
Okay, so crazy - that reference car I mentioned a few posts back? It's the C4S that is up for sale on Pcarmarket...I knew it looked familiar! Someone added decals...
https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/1...-carrera-4s-8/
https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/1...-carrera-4s-8/
those decals look horrible
02-26-2023, 12:23 PM
#2946
It's an accident car with paint bubbles and some needed maintenance. Hopefully someone gets a good deal. Decals not helping.
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mr_Jamo (02-26-2023)
02-27-2023, 01:01 PM
#2947
Rennlist Member
Well, the accident was more than 70,000 miles ago- and most of the work it seems to need is body stuff- I can imagine this is going to sell at the current bid- would be the single LOWEST priced C4S in the US sold in many years.
02-27-2023, 02:28 PM
#2948
Instructor
It's a Reserve auction, it's not even going to sell. An accident is an accident, at any time in a car's history. I think the notion is clear that buyers spending the dollars for these cars prefer ones that have clean histories and don't have owners that went overzealous with gaudy decals and dumb Euro plates
02-27-2023, 02:55 PM
#2949
Racer
I have a car for sale there by the way if anyone is looking for a great BMW...only issue with the car is that the ignition is on the wrong side of the steering column
BMW Z3 M Roadster
02-27-2023, 05:10 PM
#2950
Rennlist Member
It's a Reserve auction, it's not even going to sell. An accident is an accident, at any time in a car's history. I think the notion is clear that buyers spending the dollars for these cars prefer ones that have clean histories and don't have owners that went overzealous with gaudy decals and dumb Euro plates
And when I say DRIVE- I mean higher mileage cars- a 25K specimen is a showpiece these days.
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My993_4s_Dave (02-27-2023)
02-27-2023, 06:14 PM
#2951
Racer
It's a Reserve auction, it's not even going to sell. An accident is an accident, at any time in a car's history. I think the notion is clear that buyers spending the dollars for these cars prefer ones that have clean histories and don't have owners that went overzealous with gaudy decals and dumb Euro plates
02-28-2023, 01:09 AM
#2952
Instructor
While the bidding on that car jumped up a decent amount at the end, I'm still not sure if that was a good sell. Maybe it is and an accident history has that much of a price impact. Or maybe the decals scared away another $10-$20k.
The reserve on that car from Pcarmarket must have been around $80-85k.
Here's another interesting comparison, a C2S that DIDN'T meet reserve on BaT at almost $130k and with 10k lower miles and no accidents: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...ra-s-coupe-25/
The reserve on that car from Pcarmarket must have been around $80-85k.
Here's another interesting comparison, a C2S that DIDN'T meet reserve on BaT at almost $130k and with 10k lower miles and no accidents: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...ra-s-coupe-25/
02-28-2023, 03:44 AM
#2953
Instructor
I'll probably put my 993 4s on BAT in a couple of months if prices stay on the current level. To me it looks like auction results are less predictable compared to a few months ago.
02-28-2023, 11:51 AM
#2954
Rennlist Member
02-28-2023, 12:16 PM
#2955
Instructor
certainly less predictable than 6-9 months ago, but it does appear that 'good' cars are still bringing good money. the usual trend is that the ones that 'rise' with the good examples, in an aggressive market, fall off earlier and sharper, obviously. (nothing everyone here doesn't know already).
My 993 4s is a 37 K arctic silver on full black leather ROW no sunroof example.